dumb question

I'm 964 years old

fuck you all

XD

I was born when the west stopped being traditional.

I'll give you a real answer, even though I already told you. 20

what did you even expect @Gilgamesh

i'm assuming you're mostly fucking retarded children who can't wait 2 minutes before thinking about something

@Gilgamesh im 38

fuck off

god damn i'm so annoyed

34

Go.away then

Hey kids, there's nothing 'swag' or 'yolo' about cyber bullying!

I'm of the "you can choose your actions but not the consequences" school of thought on free will

I'm "I don't think it exists, but I don't fucking know, and don't think it's very worth while to bother thinking about"

Okay Jes. Can you say the information, the previous actions, or even interactions didn't affected your decision to perform that action?

The only reason you choose actions is because you expect certain consequences, if it is impossible to predict the consequences to *any* degree of certainty, then you won't choose to act.

What do you base that on?

this is why free will debates are stupid because there's no way to prove it, because if it's determined that you'd argue about it, then it's determined you believe you have free will and the determined results of you embracing free will is the determined prosperity of growing your diligence and discipline and thus increasing the heights you can reach and achieving those heights.

But if there is free will, then it's the same fucking result

It's a philosopher's jack off conversation

@Dusty Morgan I felt like wieghing in with my opinion. you just described motivations not causations

Math is stupid because you can't prove logic.

Motivations effect your choices man.

yes

who is arguing they dont?

If you were not motivated, would you make that choice?

@The Ghost of Monarchies yes

im often motivated but still dont do things

Just because your will is determined does not mean it doesn't exist.

im motivated to hit people all the time but i dont

I gotta go sleep

That you been condition to view hitting others as a bad thing through consequences.

See ya

nah, sometimes hitting is appropriate.

You got a small and limited free will.

If there's two doors to get into the same room, and one door was 4 feet tall and the other was 9, most people will go through the door that you don't need to duck to get into. That's influence. But nothing is stopping you from using the usable 4 feet tall door, that's free will.

you are confating my moral sense of right and wrong with my choices

We live in a universe bound by physical laws, so we have a plausible scope, but within that existience every choice that is up to you will shift that scope around

I'm motivated to teleport but i cant 😦

People tend to confuse determinism with omniscience.