Message from @Rouqen

Discord ID: 519988779432411156


2018-12-05 21:25:29 UTC  

I believe that all humans are good, just a question of perspective @Dvir

2018-12-05 21:25:32 UTC  

humans make illogical choices

2018-12-05 21:26:21 UTC  

Because brain is not a perfect circut @Eirene

2018-12-05 21:26:22 UTC  

Humans are rational animals and if they where divorced from altruism and acted according to their mind and bodies implications all interactions would voluntary actions that benefit man

2018-12-05 21:26:42 UTC  

Also the limbic system allows for illogical things

2018-12-05 21:26:47 UTC  

But rational

2018-12-05 21:27:09 UTC  

Lol someone deleted dichotomytests link

2018-12-05 21:27:10 UTC  

Sometimes it is logical to be illogical.... to be... unpredictable...

2018-12-05 21:27:20 UTC  

Thats not true

2018-12-05 21:27:32 UTC  

If you are doing that intentionally you are not illogical @Eirene

2018-12-05 21:27:40 UTC  

Just doing deceptive acts

2018-12-05 21:27:43 UTC  

For

2018-12-05 21:27:45 UTC  

Reasons

2018-12-05 21:28:08 UTC  

further violence would not be tolerated

2018-12-05 21:28:27 UTC  

It makes sense to make a dumb attack to surprise the opponent

2018-12-05 21:28:35 UTC  

It looks illogical

2018-12-05 21:28:45 UTC  

But you plan it out with logic

2018-12-05 21:28:52 UTC  

Just as a ploy

2018-12-05 21:29:31 UTC  

Acting illogical sometimes prevents the enemy from counter planning as easily

2018-12-05 21:29:38 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-05 21:29:45 UTC  

But you act

2018-12-05 21:29:54 UTC  

You are not actually being illogical

2018-12-05 21:30:11 UTC  

Like when I pretend to be utterly degenerate for laughs

2018-12-05 21:30:17 UTC  

Right, Eirene, you're just not using the word right, like Rouqen is saying.

2018-12-05 21:30:33 UTC  

Acting in a way that is, externally, odd, gains you a tactical advantage and thus is the rational choice.

2018-12-05 21:30:39 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-05 21:30:48 UTC  

Perhaps the regular illogic is a leftover from evolution from when humans weren't intelligent enough to plan

2018-12-05 21:30:58 UTC  

*shrug*

2018-12-05 21:31:18 UTC  

Nope. Its leftover because the limbic system is both feeling and memory

2018-12-05 21:31:30 UTC  

And that combined is bad for logic

2018-12-05 21:31:50 UTC  

adding a second layer to hinder counter-planning since when it is fake stupid and when is it real stupid?

2018-12-05 21:32:08 UTC  

when should you take advantage and when should you not get baited?

2018-12-05 21:32:28 UTC  

Make a logical choice

2018-12-05 21:32:45 UTC  

Or go with instinct

2018-12-05 21:32:51 UTC  

Except life isnt war

2018-12-05 21:32:53 UTC  

That works too

2018-12-05 21:32:55 UTC  

Kirk vs Spock

2018-12-05 21:33:03 UTC  

Spock wins

2018-12-05 21:33:09 UTC  

But Kirk is Captain

2018-12-05 21:33:25 UTC  

And spock has logic the predict kirk

2018-12-05 21:33:32 UTC  

Even if kirk pretends