Fuck you money loo

A true capitalist

Notch is what happens when a normal person doesn't have to lie.

Isnt that trump

Notch is a legend

It is in regard to a free market that the distinction between an intrinsic, subjective, and objective view of values is particularly important to understand. The market value of a product is not an intrinsic value, not a “value in itself” hanging in a vacuum. A free market never loses sight of the question: Of value to whom? And, within the broad field of objectivity, the market value of a product does not reflect its philosophically objective value, but only its socially objective value.

By “philosophically objective,” I mean a value estimated from the standpoint of the best possible to man, i.e., by the criterion of the most rational mind possessing the greatest knowledge, in a given category, in a given period, and in a defined context (nothing can be estimated in an undefined context). For instance, it can be rationally proved that the airplane is objectively of immeasurably greater value to man (to man at his best) than the bicycle—and that the works of Victor Hugo are objectivelyof immeasurably greater value than true-confession magazines. But if a given man’s intellectual potential can barely manage to enjoy true confessions, there is no reason why his meager earnings, the product of his effort, should be spent on books he cannot read—or on subsidizing the airplane industry, if his own transportation needs do not extend beyond the range of a bicycle. (Nor is there any reason why the rest of mankind should be held down to the level of his literary taste, his engineering capacity, and his income. Values are not determined by fiat nor by majority vote.)

Most people have it in them to be as pure as Notch.

Notch is pretty great.

Most cannot be.

Trump has to lie sometimes to get deals done.

But Notch has no such ambition.

I am an atheist, but I do also understand that we still haven't found a structure that is better (to fill that void) than what religious tribe has given us... @Rouqen

Notch just one punches everything.

@Rouqen Did you see the message?

@Coochie coo well I mean there's always the structure we had, minus Jesus really. The issue is that social pressure and other structures went too

U mean that giant wall of text @Existence is identity

Yeah

Don't you think we should look towards reforming religion PPP instead of getting rid of a fundamental aspect of the human experience

Why would you reform a metaphysical contradiction?

Destroy everything

thats why secularism is a thing @Dvir

I would rather have a monolatric pluralistic society than a secular one

whats that @Dvir

Lets bring back contradictory tribal concepts

Thats totally not a bad idea

yes I agree with that as well , there was always some sort of religious structure, obviously Jesus only goes back 2 thousand years... theres been thousands of religions@Beemann

@Dvir

Oh I just mean that you can have shared cultural identity without it being tied up in a metaphysical entity

@Existence is identity I see your point. I agree with the airplane thing, but here is a thing
Plane is faster, more energy to use then a bike, because energy is what makes anything. Energy is has true value because it is defined in matter. Gold is defined objectively in the society because of its rarity and nothing else, making it a valid commodity. Speaking from a purely objective point of view nothing has more value then anything else in a material sense. I hope I didn't botch the wording.

The issue is that you need a sort of baseline purpose or people start to get a bit antsy

i personally like the idea of civic nationalism

There are four stances a state can take on religion: theistic, pluralistic, secularistic, and atheistic. A pluralistic society keeps its fundamental religious values while accepting all other religions that share said fundamental moral principles. Monolatry is the belief that the one transcendent God should be worshipped while accepting differentiating views of religion so long as they agree on that shared value.

@Rouqen Id agree but things have to measured by certain standards and context as for everything being the same in reality is still measured by reality

Thus religions like judaism, christianity, hinduism, and others will be able to coexist because they all believe in the the ultimate One God from which all comes from, even if in the case of Hinduism there are multiple deities, all deities are believed to be aspects of the One God.

Sure, but I also have a problem when religion becomes authoritarian, like the catholic church, modern islam today, SJW mind disease, etc... @Dvir

@Coochie coo All of collectivism becomes authoritarian

Lol

That is understandable, but the current ailment of intersectionalism is the result of a lack of moral absolutism, a lack of religious absolutes, thus with the extreme moral relativity within our society a new form of moral absolutism has arisen from the laxity of the society.

but people also want evidence for what they're praying to as well @Dvir

I also give gold and silver more value then iron. Right now I am just being as objective as I can in my judgement of worth @Existence is identity

@Dvir wouldnt that be unreasonable having ONE true religion and also , yea sure you can keep being animist