Message from @Hiniku

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2018-12-11 02:38:08 UTC  

though it's noticeably less common these days

2018-12-11 02:42:17 UTC  

I solved it by having 64GB ram lol

2018-12-11 02:54:39 UTC  

By any means necessary..

2018-12-11 02:54:40 UTC  

or...

2018-12-11 02:54:47 UTC  

**by all means**

2018-12-11 02:57:05 UTC  

I think I understand why I hate the new left so much

2018-12-11 02:57:50 UTC  

Their morality is based on consequentialism aka Utilitarian

2018-12-11 02:58:07 UTC  

Take the word "nigger"

2018-12-11 02:59:45 UTC  

Someone of the radical left wants this word banned because they are consequentialist. The context and intent of the word matter not. They only care if saying the word will have negative consequences.

2018-12-11 03:00:22 UTC  

If you listen to their justifications for it being banned it is quite clear

2018-12-11 03:00:34 UTC  

Same with polices

2018-12-11 03:00:44 UTC  

Look at affirmative action

2018-12-11 03:01:31 UTC  

You can commit the evil of racial discrimination as long as it benefits the "greater good" or at least their perceived greater good.

2018-12-11 03:01:49 UTC  

The left is thanos

2018-12-11 03:01:54 UTC  

Consequentialism isn't necessarily just utilitarianism FYI

2018-12-11 03:02:15 UTC  

Utilitarianism is a branch of consequentialism tho

2018-12-11 03:02:24 UTC  

u right tho

2018-12-11 03:02:58 UTC  

But yeah Utilitarianism is trash

2018-12-11 03:03:19 UTC  

Also I believe the reason the left deserters left the left is cause they are deontologists

2018-12-11 03:03:40 UTC  

I saw the moral arguments Tim was making in his videos

2018-12-11 03:04:12 UTC  

I think this is the true split in the left

2018-12-11 03:04:41 UTC  

The ones who base their morality on Utilitarianism and those who are Deontologists

2018-12-11 03:05:25 UTC  

Also I think the reason we group the far left and far right is because both their moralities are based on Utilitarianism

2018-12-11 03:05:35 UTC  

Maybe I am wrong idfk

2018-12-11 03:05:46 UTC  

But I just thought of that today

2018-12-11 03:06:37 UTC  

I think a lot of people might couch their moral defense in consequentialism even if they work off of a rules basis the rest of the time

2018-12-11 03:07:22 UTC  

Like for instance I suspected that even if the data showed that miscegenation forms ubermensch, ethnonationalists would still want to ethnonation

2018-12-11 03:07:29 UTC  

I think when broken down into reality humans vary

2018-12-11 03:07:32 UTC  

But

2018-12-11 03:07:43 UTC  

the ideologies that are pushed

2018-12-11 03:07:56 UTC  

can be looked at

2018-12-11 03:09:24 UTC  

u r probably right @Beemann

2018-12-11 03:09:53 UTC  

I think I might be wrong with the far right

2018-12-11 03:10:22 UTC  

I just think a lot of the far left make a lot of greater good arguments to justify their bad behaviors

2018-12-11 03:10:33 UTC  

In fact that is all they do

2018-12-11 03:10:59 UTC  

Sure

2018-12-11 03:11:02 UTC  

I think that should be apart of the dialogue

2018-12-11 03:11:09 UTC  

And I think their focus falls neatly into the utilitarian category

2018-12-11 03:11:49 UTC  

It is something not said as much as it should be, because it can be used to fight back their ethical approaches to policy in a way that would ruin them, imo.

2018-12-11 03:12:48 UTC  

People usually back off when they are called racist or whatever, but instead if they explained their ethical approach and why it is wrong, I think it would be a lot more productive in shutting them down.

2018-12-11 03:13:02 UTC  

Or maybe not