Message from @Hiniku

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2018-12-11 03:03:19 UTC  

Also I believe the reason the left deserters left the left is cause they are deontologists

2018-12-11 03:03:40 UTC  

I saw the moral arguments Tim was making in his videos

2018-12-11 03:04:12 UTC  

I think this is the true split in the left

2018-12-11 03:04:41 UTC  

The ones who base their morality on Utilitarianism and those who are Deontologists

2018-12-11 03:05:25 UTC  

Also I think the reason we group the far left and far right is because both their moralities are based on Utilitarianism

2018-12-11 03:05:35 UTC  

Maybe I am wrong idfk

2018-12-11 03:05:46 UTC  

But I just thought of that today

2018-12-11 03:06:37 UTC  

I think a lot of people might couch their moral defense in consequentialism even if they work off of a rules basis the rest of the time

2018-12-11 03:07:22 UTC  

Like for instance I suspected that even if the data showed that miscegenation forms ubermensch, ethnonationalists would still want to ethnonation

2018-12-11 03:07:29 UTC  

I think when broken down into reality humans vary

2018-12-11 03:07:32 UTC  

But

2018-12-11 03:07:43 UTC  

the ideologies that are pushed

2018-12-11 03:07:56 UTC  

can be looked at

2018-12-11 03:09:24 UTC  

u r probably right @Beemann

2018-12-11 03:09:53 UTC  

I think I might be wrong with the far right

2018-12-11 03:10:22 UTC  

I just think a lot of the far left make a lot of greater good arguments to justify their bad behaviors

2018-12-11 03:10:33 UTC  

In fact that is all they do

2018-12-11 03:10:59 UTC  

Sure

2018-12-11 03:11:02 UTC  

I think that should be apart of the dialogue

2018-12-11 03:11:09 UTC  

And I think their focus falls neatly into the utilitarian category

2018-12-11 03:11:49 UTC  

It is something not said as much as it should be, because it can be used to fight back their ethical approaches to policy in a way that would ruin them, imo.

2018-12-11 03:12:48 UTC  

People usually back off when they are called racist or whatever, but instead if they explained their ethical approach and why it is wrong, I think it would be a lot more productive in shutting them down.

2018-12-11 03:13:02 UTC  

Or maybe not

2018-12-11 03:13:03 UTC  

xd

2018-12-11 03:17:51 UTC  

I kinda doubt it tbh. That's a little more charitable than I would be

2018-12-11 03:18:12 UTC  

The methodology is a little cult like in that it works to unperson critics and isolate adherents

2018-12-11 03:21:31 UTC  

So the Verge just wrote another propaganda filled hate piece against Pewdiepie.

2018-12-11 03:22:09 UTC  

basically all they can do, they can't build a computer to save their lives

2018-12-11 03:22:09 UTC  

Also I find the comments funny.

2018-12-11 03:22:39 UTC  

can you link?

2018-12-11 03:22:42 UTC  

look at their reactions to the utter fail of a pc building fiasco

2018-12-11 03:23:06 UTC  

Someone "explained" that the term "NPC" was an insult used by the alt-right to dehumanize anyone that disagrees with them.

2018-12-11 03:23:08 UTC  

i love how they think shitting on pewdiepie isn't going to make him even bigger.

2018-12-11 03:23:52 UTC  

but them constantly calling people russian bots?

2018-12-11 03:23:53 UTC  

i've just given in. i just tell ppl i'm straight alt-right anymore.

2018-12-11 03:23:58 UTC  

Or rather they were targeting this channel, but Pewdiepie still got hit.

2018-12-11 03:24:23 UTC  

rules for thee, but not for me

2018-12-11 03:24:26 UTC  

leftist 101

2018-12-11 03:24:38 UTC  

So NPC is a dehumanizing term eh? Then what about the left calling people who disagree with them alt-right trolls?

2018-12-11 03:24:55 UTC  

That's just as dehumanizing. But they won't see it.