Message from @AHeroQuest

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2018-12-12 20:34:39 UTC  

no make, you have proven you dont understand ANY philosophy

2018-12-12 20:34:48 UTC  

Okay bud

2018-12-12 20:35:02 UTC  

anything paticular you are struggling with @AHeroQuest

2018-12-12 20:35:30 UTC  

i have a few youtubes too that deal with philosophy, ill seek a few links

2018-12-12 20:36:00 UTC  

How about you read the virtue of selfishness and tell me everything wrong with it

2018-12-12 20:36:20 UTC  

How does it contradict itself

2018-12-12 20:36:27 UTC  

Make Russia, what I do not understand is why we have to choose between two *extreme views* on living life

2018-12-12 20:36:50 UTC  

@AHeroQuest i dont think its extreme,actualy.

2018-12-12 20:36:56 UTC  

hedonism anyways isnt.

2018-12-12 20:37:02 UTC  
2018-12-12 20:37:11 UTC  

ethical hedonism pretty much is our medical ethics

2018-12-12 20:37:12 UTC  

@AHeroQuest Extreme doesnt mean bad lol

2018-12-12 20:37:29 UTC  

For something not to be extreme means it contradicts its own logic

2018-12-12 20:39:42 UTC  

@AHeroQuest https://www.youtube.com/user/SisyphusRedeemed some basic philosophy starting with the philosophy of science itself, from https://www.youtube.com/user/AntiCitizenX the meditations are probably of interest.

2018-12-12 20:39:58 UTC  

long videos

2018-12-12 20:40:41 UTC  

i agree that extreme doesnt mean bad. Hedonism for one, espacialy ethical hedonism is extremly libertarian

2018-12-12 20:40:59 UTC  

not restrictive to "objective value" what you want to push

2018-12-12 20:41:02 UTC  

Eww Libertarians

2018-12-12 20:41:49 UTC  

And i dont mean libertarian free will. There is no possible world in which libertarian free will could possibly exist

2018-12-12 20:42:01 UTC  

No I just dislike them

2018-12-12 20:42:09 UTC  

Maybe it would help if I use an example of how I see this argument:
As I have already mentioned, I live in Las Vegas, where it is known for its sex. Under hedonism, the view of sex should be to have it whenever and wherever to the extreme because of how pleasurable it is. Under stoicism, sex should be seen as absolutely abhorrent and should be prohibited at any cost.

2018-12-12 20:42:29 UTC  

@AHeroQuest no. that is NOT the view of hedonism

2018-12-12 20:42:45 UTC  

thats the view of cyrenaics. Its often confused for hedonism @AHeroQuest

2018-12-12 20:42:51 UTC  

Objectivism says to work in your best long term interests

2018-12-12 20:42:58 UTC  

as does hedonism

2018-12-12 20:43:01 UTC  

Hedonism says pursue pleasure

2018-12-12 20:43:10 UTC  

which is your long term interest

2018-12-12 20:43:12 UTC  

allways

2018-12-12 20:43:25 UTC  

No my long term interest is a sustained life

2018-12-12 20:43:34 UTC  

this is why lefties are fucking dumb

2018-12-12 20:43:45 UTC  

One consistent with my values

2018-12-12 20:43:46 UTC  

so youd rather live with the worst pain imaginable for 20 years than happy for 15 years? i rather doubt that

2018-12-12 20:43:47 UTC  

Of course

2018-12-12 20:43:51 UTC  

ms ford presents strong women awards for sports illistrated

2018-12-12 20:43:56 UTC  

she fucking admitted she lied

2018-12-12 20:44:13 UTC  

You are providing a scenario with no context lol

2018-12-12 20:44:27 UTC  

christine ford now hands out strong women awards for sport sillstrated

2018-12-12 20:44:31 UTC  

isnt that a mans magazine

2018-12-12 20:44:32 UTC  

wtf

2018-12-12 20:44:45 UTC  

Pleasure isn't explicitly linked to overall good. Plenty of things we respond to well are bad for us in the long run

2018-12-12 20:45:12 UTC  

isnt sports illustrated originally for men