Message from @taekahn

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2018-12-28 02:46:27 UTC  

My god

2018-12-28 02:46:36 UTC  

Well, I got even more specific

2018-12-28 02:47:02 UTC  

hiniku that's a bad argument, because categorically that's a slippery slope towards "what if someone wants to harm people so they hurt someone's feelings"

2018-12-28 02:47:06 UTC  

if someone intends to kill me by talking me to death, i also don't think they should be arrested on attempted murder charges.

2018-12-28 02:47:32 UTC  

hurting someone's feelings isn't the same as intending to kill / harm them

2018-12-28 02:47:38 UTC  

is that a powerplat malfunctioning?

2018-12-28 02:47:40 UTC  

on a physical level

2018-12-28 02:47:50 UTC  

Wait what? @GoldenPhoenix

2018-12-28 02:47:54 UTC  

Can I get an example

2018-12-28 02:47:55 UTC  

I hear Tim likes One Punch Man

2018-12-28 02:48:00 UTC  

i didn't say hurt my feelings.

2018-12-28 02:48:04 UTC  

i said talk me to death

2018-12-28 02:48:35 UTC  

Talk me to death makes no sense, causing panic to hurt does.

2018-12-28 02:48:42 UTC  

It's exploding

2018-12-28 02:48:46 UTC  

right, talking someone to death doesn't make sense, that's the point

2018-12-28 02:48:58 UTC  

She did way more physical harm to him, than he did to her

2018-12-28 02:49:10 UTC  

lol

2018-12-28 02:49:14 UTC  

That's more of a dive than professional soccer players

2018-12-28 02:49:19 UTC  

yelling doesn't hurt anyone

2018-12-28 02:49:21 UTC  

And that's saying something

2018-12-28 02:49:24 UTC  

@Hiniku intending to do harm by speech is a bad argument because that can be extrapolated into a rediculous curtailment of freedom of speech. your situation is good, but you're arguing the wrong point. It's not that they yelled fire (the speech), it's that they directly caused physical harm to a person

2018-12-28 02:49:27 UTC  

look

2018-12-28 02:49:31 UTC  

well, maybe their eardrums or something, which i would take issue with

2018-12-28 02:49:33 UTC  

Whoops, wrong channel.

2018-12-28 02:49:46 UTC  

people panicing is their own action

2018-12-28 02:49:53 UTC  

But my point is that you are making a false equivalence between talk to death and causing panic in a crowded space @Paradox

2018-12-28 02:49:53 UTC  

which they are responsible for

2018-12-28 02:50:14 UTC  

What caused them to panic

2018-12-28 02:50:17 UTC  

people don't panic without a stimulus, whether real or imagined

2018-12-28 02:50:23 UTC  

their stupidity

2018-12-28 02:50:39 UTC  

Good idea @GoldenPhoenix

2018-12-28 02:51:04 UTC  

yes, imagined. IE delusional/irrational.

2018-12-28 02:51:06 UTC  

that's not a way to run a legal system, otherwise every case of someone being taken advantage of can be chalked up to their personal stupidity

2018-12-28 02:51:21 UTC  

If you yelled fire, you are the direct harm of the people who panic, because you started the panic. @Paradox

2018-12-28 02:51:44 UTC  

No. They panic'd of their own accord in response to me shouting a word.

2018-12-28 02:51:55 UTC  

If someone kills themself because I write a sad song, am i responsible?

2018-12-28 02:52:16 UTC  

no, they had the choice to listen to it

2018-12-28 02:52:16 UTC  

So is it the bullets fault that some dies of a gun wound or is it the person who shot the gun?

2018-12-28 02:52:55 UTC  

Metaphorically, the people running in panic are the bullets of the one that yelled fire.

2018-12-28 02:53:11 UTC  

it's more complicated than that, but...