Message from @Hiniku
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Can I get an example
I hear Tim likes One Punch Man
i didn't say hurt my feelings.
i said talk me to death
Talk me to death makes no sense, causing panic to hurt does.
It's exploding
right, talking someone to death doesn't make sense, that's the point
She did way more physical harm to him, than he did to her
lol
That's more of a dive than professional soccer players
yelling doesn't hurt anyone
And that's saying something
@Hiniku intending to do harm by speech is a bad argument because that can be extrapolated into a rediculous curtailment of freedom of speech. your situation is good, but you're arguing the wrong point. It's not that they yelled fire (the speech), it's that they directly caused physical harm to a person
look
well, maybe their eardrums or something, which i would take issue with
Whoops, wrong channel.
people panicing is their own action
But my point is that you are making a false equivalence between talk to death and causing panic in a crowded space @Paradox
which they are responsible for
people don't panic without a stimulus, whether real or imagined
their stupidity
Good idea @GoldenPhoenix
yes, imagined. IE delusional/irrational.
that's not a way to run a legal system, otherwise every case of someone being taken advantage of can be chalked up to their personal stupidity
If you yelled fire, you are the direct harm of the people who panic, because you started the panic. @Paradox
No. They panic'd of their own accord in response to me shouting a word.
If someone kills themself because I write a sad song, am i responsible?
no, they had the choice to listen to it
So is it the bullets fault that some dies of a gun wound or is it the person who shot the gun?
Metaphorically, the people running in panic are the bullets of the one that yelled fire.
it's more complicated than that, but...
Either one understands context, or one doesn't.
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That's not a good straw man, hiniku.
You are also diminishing the urgency/importance of yelling fire in a theater falsely
If the person yelling fire actually trampled them, then he is actually causing violence
It's just a metaphor
otherwise, he's just yelling
sure it might be disruptive, someone being loud while u r trying to watch a movie, but it shouldn't be illegal.
It is a reasonable response to leave a crowded area if someone yelled fire, you act like this is an unnatural response.