Talk me to death makes no sense, causing panic to hurt does.

It's exploding

right, talking someone to death doesn't make sense, that's the point

She did way more physical harm to him, than he did to her

lol

That's more of a dive than professional soccer players

yelling doesn't hurt anyone

And that's saying something

@Hiniku intending to do harm by speech is a bad argument because that can be extrapolated into a rediculous curtailment of freedom of speech. your situation is good, but you're arguing the wrong point. It's not that they yelled fire (the speech), it's that they directly caused physical harm to a person

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well, maybe their eardrums or something, which i would take issue with

Whoops, wrong channel.

people panicing is their own action

But my point is that you are making a false equivalence between talk to death and causing panic in a crowded space @Paradox

which they are responsible for

What caused them to panic

people don't panic without a stimulus, whether real or imagined

their stupidity

Good idea @GoldenPhoenix

yes, imagined. IE delusional/irrational.

that's not a way to run a legal system, otherwise every case of someone being taken advantage of can be chalked up to their personal stupidity

If you yelled fire, you are the direct harm of the people who panic, because you started the panic. @Paradox

No. They panic'd of their own accord in response to me shouting a word.

If someone kills themself because I write a sad song, am i responsible?

no, they had the choice to listen to it

So is it the bullets fault that some dies of a gun wound or is it the person who shot the gun?

Metaphorically, the people running in panic are the bullets of the one that yelled fire.

it's more complicated than that, but...

Either one understands context, or one doesn't.
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That's not a good straw man, hiniku.

You are also diminishing the urgency/importance of yelling fire in a theater falsely

If the person yelling fire actually trampled them, then he is actually causing violence

It's just a metaphor

otherwise, he's just yelling

sure it might be disruptive, someone being loud while u r trying to watch a movie, but it shouldn't be illegal.

It is a reasonable response to leave a crowded area if someone yelled fire, you act like this is an unnatural response.

Technically yes, but the person thst caused the panic should also be at fault since they are the one who caused the panic

you're talking about it sitting at a desk or on your phone in abstract. being "logical" about a high stress situation doesn't give proper representation of the event

panicing would be unreasonable, you could leave without panicing, you could...look around...

If someone is using that response, on purpose, to cause harm, it should be illegal

Anyone here plays dragonrealms?