Message from @LittleGiantJ
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in some forms of logical progression
in the basis of itself Human nature is evil and to control your nature makes you a better human
its kindof ironic if we lable all things as evil simply because it was made by men
Evil in this case only means very bad and really really really bad. And the thing is that it shows that the bible is right in many points.
look at the AMish lol
for example the no sex before marriage stuff...
@GoldenPhoenix that argument still presupposes that there is right and wrong. You can’t prove that right and wrong exists with a materialistic worldview
gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps
LOL
you can't, but you can prove that there is a "I might be inconvenienced" vs "I will benefit"
but at least we can all agree china has the right idea when it comes to Muslims right? /s
Actually. Adultery and fornication are different...
Fornication is the Act of sex
Adultery is cheating on your spouse
Or simply sleeping around
fornication is sex without marriage, adultery is cheating
```gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps```
Not all gays are doing that but some are. And the real problem is that he or we let them do that shit.
@GoldenPhoenix still can’t extract that from a materialistic worldview
we should be on the streets and protest the parents of Desmond is Amazing
we let priests diddle kiddies too, your point?
Fornication is sex before being married. Adultery is having sex when you are married, but it's not your spouse.
You can fornicate without committing adultery, but you cannot commit adultery without fornication...
well all we know is and i qoute Rowan Atkinson : Fornicators line up infront of that small Guillotine over there
The reason for anti-homosexuality in religion was typically the case escpecially in the old times because mortalilty rates were a bitch, and maximizing offspring would help have many people in the religion for a stronger support network
Yeah
the plagues
wars
And they made observations on how baby-making works. They saw reproduction as the "right" way.
the flu
not to mention i'm sure pre modern medicine homosexuality has health problems
all these fucking health issues . average life was up to 34-45 in most areas
in fact, i would see any anal as being viewed as taboo
```The reason for anti-homosexuality in religion was typically the case escpecially in the old times because mortalilty rates were a bitch, and maximizing offspring would help have many people in the religion for a stronger support network```
That was one reason. I've seen somewhere that pedophilia was also part of that. And other degenerate shit....
shit on your dick is not generally good when you have good hygiene
@Stefan Payne though ironically the catholic church
can't imagine back in the times when the streets were literally paved with shit
how not? @Salacious Swanky Cat even in a materialistic view, you want to act in your own self interest. doing things that hurt others can be harmful to you, too, which is where you can derive the majority of morals from
if you look at Life expectancy and how they could try and make people be more readily available . gay people would be a hindrance to a tribe or a Civilization whos main export is expansion
And a lot of wrong-doing will make you enemies. It's more beneficial to be good than bad.
^^
Yup
There are selfish reasons to be "good".