Message from @Stefan Payne
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just a bit vague saying all religion vs all philosophy
my country the chatolics and african cultures hate Gay people because of this fact
No, i didn't keep going on about what i have read, i haven't said a god damn thing about anything i've read.
I've been going on about what i stated is present in the bible.
there is no point, it was a god damn joke.
```Religion: "God says homosexuality is a sin, and anyone who does it is evil and should be shamed and shunned."
Philosophy: "...if they're two consenting adults, and nobody is getting hurt, why should we care what they do?```
You heard about the Desmond is Amazing Story?? Him dancing in a Gay Bar at 3AM or so.
He's an 11 year old boy.
and the Christian baker with the Cake...
Then any form of sex for recreation and not reproduction is wrong too
though you could argue that it is typically religions stances vs typical philosophical stances
So yeah, the Gay stuff has its place in the Bible, it is there for a reason. And the reason is showing itself right now.
i believe that is a moral teaching in some christian circles
@LittleGiantJ once again, how is this any better than you thinking that you are better.
punchline got ruined by the Constant back and forth of nothing
every day you see more and more why that sentence was in the Bible.
sex has two purposes: feels good, makes babies. fulfilling both of those purposes leads to the most logical sexual acts
where contraceptives and sex before marriage are both sins
That's your opinion. Feel free to be wrong about it.
@Grenade123 i think its pretty stupid most cases to argue what is evil
in some forms of logical progression
in the basis of itself Human nature is evil and to control your nature makes you a better human
its kindof ironic if we lable all things as evil simply because it was made by men
Evil in this case only means very bad and really really really bad. And the thing is that it shows that the bible is right in many points.
look at the AMish lol
for example the no sex before marriage stuff...
@GoldenPhoenix that argument still presupposes that there is right and wrong. You can’t prove that right and wrong exists with a materialistic worldview
gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps
LOL
you can't, but you can prove that there is a "I might be inconvenienced" vs "I will benefit"
but at least we can all agree china has the right idea when it comes to Muslims right? /s
Actually. Adultery and fornication are different...
Fornication is the Act of sex
Adultery is cheating on your spouse
Or simply sleeping around
fornication is sex without marriage, adultery is cheating
```gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps```
Not all gays are doing that but some are. And the real problem is that he or we let them do that shit.
@GoldenPhoenix still can’t extract that from a materialistic worldview
we should be on the streets and protest the parents of Desmond is Amazing
we let priests diddle kiddies too, your point?
Fornication is sex before being married. Adultery is having sex when you are married, but it's not your spouse.
You can fornicate without committing adultery, but you cannot commit adultery without fornication...
well all we know is and i qoute Rowan Atkinson : Fornicators line up infront of that small Guillotine over there
The reason for anti-homosexuality in religion was typically the case escpecially in the old times because mortalilty rates were a bitch, and maximizing offspring would help have many people in the religion for a stronger support network
Yeah