So yeah, the Gay stuff has its place in the Bible, it is there for a reason. And the reason is showing itself right now.

i believe that is a moral teaching in some christian circles

@LittleGiantJ once again, how is this any better than you thinking that you are better.

punchline got ruined by the Constant back and forth of nothing

every day you see more and more why that sentence was in the Bible.

sex has two purposes: feels good, makes babies. fulfilling both of those purposes leads to the most logical sexual acts

where contraceptives and sex before marriage are both sins

That's your opinion. Feel free to be wrong about it.

@Grenade123 i think its pretty stupid most cases to argue what is evil

in some forms of logical progression

in the basis of itself Human nature is evil and to control your nature makes you a better human

its kindof ironic if we lable all things as evil simply because it was made by men

Evil in this case only means very bad and really really really bad. And the thing is that it shows that the bible is right in many points.

look at the AMish lol

for example the no sex before marriage stuff...

@GoldenPhoenix that argument still presupposes that there is right and wrong. You can’t prove that right and wrong exists with a materialistic worldview

gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps

LOL

you can't, but you can prove that there is a "I might be inconvenienced" vs "I will benefit"

but at least we can all agree china has the right idea when it comes to Muslims right? /s

Actually. Adultery and fornication are different...

Fornication is the Act of sex

Adultery is cheating on your spouse

Or simply sleeping around

fornication is sex without marriage, adultery is cheating

```gonna have to tell my gay friend he is destroying the west. along with dan from game grumps```
Not all gays are doing that but some are. And the real problem is that he or we let them do that shit.

@GoldenPhoenix still can’t extract that from a materialistic worldview

we should be on the streets and protest the parents of Desmond is Amazing

we let priests diddle kiddies too, your point?

Fornication is sex before being married. Adultery is having sex when you are married, but it's not your spouse.

You can fornicate without committing adultery, but you cannot commit adultery without fornication...

well all we know is and i qoute Rowan Atkinson : Fornicators line up infront of that small Guillotine over there

The reason for anti-homosexuality in religion was typically the case escpecially in the old times because mortalilty rates were a bitch, and maximizing offspring would help have many people in the religion for a stronger support network

Yeah

the plagues

wars

And they made observations on how baby-making works. They saw reproduction as the "right" way.

the flu

not to mention i'm sure pre modern medicine homosexuality has health problems

all these fucking health issues . average life was up to 34-45 in most areas

in fact, i would see any anal as being viewed as taboo

```The reason for anti-homosexuality in religion was typically the case escpecially in the old times because mortalilty rates were a bitch, and maximizing offspring would help have many people in the religion for a stronger support network```
That was one reason. I've seen somewhere that pedophilia was also part of that. And other degenerate shit....