@ExceptionalFeather its not a connected morals

@GoldenPhoenix the failure of man isn’t proof that the scriptures are failures.

quick search tells me i was maybe right on Buddhism

religion did 1 thing is made a universal accepted moral system

and most cases overide cultural morals

no, it's not, but functionally there will be no difference. there will always be deviants who go outside the societal norm

well yes, I am also considering morals without religion probably based on religous morals

Yeas

well, not exactly. Hinduism is the other

if you have individuals who dont have any religion argue over what is right and wrong it could be a endless list

whether religion is involved or not. that doesn't mean that utilitarian morality or other methods are going to be any less effetive

necessarily

@GoldenPhoenix they have already failed.

I have friends who are atheist that never was raised religious didnt care for it but he believed from the dept of his heart hurting others is just bad

Well it helps to right morals down, and perhaps tell stories to help make them easier to understand, maybe do a ritual to help remind when distracted

and i have other friends who saw it differently

oops just created religion

the Aboriginals of australia . . were kindof . . silly

Imagine my shock.



Values differ from group to group.

when the british brought camels to australia the aboriginals added that the gods created that animal . . from so and so reason . . like . . No we brougt it here . . NO the gods made it lol

But there are a lot of things they all agree on...are there justifications for these ideals that don't require religion?

Some central Americans saw Europeans as gods

Hah . . most of them were canibalist

I am, actually, a minor deity myself.

2017 we had cannibalists give themselves up to police because they were sick of eating human flesh

@Salacious Swanky Cat. What minority are you talking about now? The religious authoritarians? Thieves? Murderers?

Japan has a endless list of gods

fairys and deitys

as they accept any religion

its like Shinto is like the agnostic of all pagan religions

it believes in all at once

because its "possible"

Not all forms of oppression are bad...exiling murderers is technically oppression.

yeah

different punishments

How about pedophiles? Shoild we consider them over the saftey of children?

lol someones is asking the hard questions ?

Speaking of wich . . What do you guys honestly thing about these No maps

No, I'm arguing for "supporting the majority" as a society.

trying to be mainstream

@LittleGiantJ any minority really. Utilitarianism fails because it cannot produce equal enforcement of law.