which is different

they go hand in hand often, one is do they exist or not, the other is can you know for a fact

its very indecisive position to sit on

Agnosticsim is not knowing or not caring of gods do or don't exist.

you can claim they do not exist but you cannot know for sure. or that you do know for sure

ive been Told Give me proof all the time . but when you say give me proof it doesnt . they are in the same position you are

Taking the stance "we can't prove gods don't exist, but i can't prove they do exist" is " not knowing"

lol

i just said that in a different way

LMAO

god damnit

Alright. Leaving now. We can have this conversation later. 😃

endless ways of interpretation

cheers man

stay safe

DM me if y’all want to.

Give me proof can also be malicious though

https://www.thoughtco.com/atheist-vs-agnostic-whats-the-difference-248040

anyway, the "I don't touch any kind of claim on religion" method is the agnostic approach, which is perfectly viable in secular education

not actually wanting proof but wanting to dismantle an argument

depends on intentions really

theres many ways .

some people want to destroy religion

through secularism

i can understand why

but this is like that conversation of Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson that Religion gave people something that Secularism leaves wanting so if you remove religion with Secularism it will be replaced with something entirely else

possible a new religion

There's a difference between atheism and mythicism too.


99% of religious types I've met lump the two together...

Including myself at one point

yeah

mythicism? never heard of that

mysticism

IIRC Styx outed himself as a Satanist

Maybe a thing to look at.

wanst he former(bleh)

wasnt

He also explains what it means to be a satanist

See, that link mentions up something that needs to be addressed
Atheists like to phrase their stance as "not believing in any gods."
But that's not an accurate characterization.
Atheists actively believe "there are no such thing as gods".

like it having nothing to do with satan

depends, there's different brands of satanism

At least the kind he was talking about