Message from @Salacious Swanky Cat

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2019-01-02 19:33:57 UTC  

the different Catagorys of belief non belief .

2019-01-02 19:34:04 UTC  

and possibility of being wrong

2019-01-02 19:34:11 UTC  

@GoldenPhoenix incorrect, agnosticism is that the knowledge cannot be known.

2019-01-02 19:34:25 UTC  

If it cannot be known how can you then be sure

2019-01-02 19:34:28 UTC  

there is any knowledge

2019-01-02 19:34:31 UTC  

yes, which neither denies nor confirms

2019-01-02 19:34:32 UTC  

its a on the Fence

2019-01-02 19:34:36 UTC  

its not concrete

2019-01-02 19:34:40 UTC  

also some agnostics claim it cannot be known at the current time

2019-01-02 19:34:43 UTC  

which is different

2019-01-02 19:34:47 UTC  

they go hand in hand often, one is do they exist or not, the other is can you know for a fact

2019-01-02 19:34:48 UTC  

its very indecisive position to sit on

2019-01-02 19:35:08 UTC  

Agnosticsim is not knowing or not caring of gods do or don't exist.

2019-01-02 19:35:21 UTC  

you can claim they do not exist but you cannot know for sure. or that you do know for sure

2019-01-02 19:35:25 UTC  

ive been Told Give me proof all the time . but when you say give me proof it doesnt . they are in the same position you are

2019-01-02 19:35:29 UTC  

Taking the stance "we can't prove gods don't exist, but i can't prove they do exist" is " not knowing"

2019-01-02 19:35:44 UTC  

lol

2019-01-02 19:35:49 UTC  

i just said that in a different way

2019-01-02 19:35:51 UTC  

LMAO

2019-01-02 19:35:53 UTC  

god damnit

2019-01-02 19:36:12 UTC  

Alright. Leaving now. We can have this conversation later. 😃

2019-01-02 19:36:14 UTC  

endless ways of interpretation

2019-01-02 19:36:18 UTC  

cheers man

2019-01-02 19:36:20 UTC  

stay safe

2019-01-02 19:36:33 UTC  

DM me if y’all want to.

2019-01-02 19:37:01 UTC  

Give me proof can also be malicious though

2019-01-02 19:37:20 UTC  

anyway, the "I don't touch any kind of claim on religion" method is the agnostic approach, which is perfectly viable in secular education

2019-01-02 19:37:24 UTC  

not actually wanting proof but wanting to dismantle an argument

2019-01-02 19:37:43 UTC  

depends on intentions really

2019-01-02 19:37:45 UTC  

theres many ways .

2019-01-02 19:37:52 UTC  

some people want to destroy religion

2019-01-02 19:37:56 UTC  

through secularism

2019-01-02 19:38:00 UTC  

i can understand why

2019-01-02 19:38:48 UTC  

but this is like that conversation of Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson that Religion gave people something that Secularism leaves wanting so if you remove religion with Secularism it will be replaced with something entirely else

2019-01-02 19:38:53 UTC  

possible a new religion

2019-01-02 19:39:37 UTC  

There's a difference between atheism and mythicism too.


99% of religious types I've met lump the two together...

2019-01-02 19:39:45 UTC  

Including myself at one point

2019-01-02 19:39:45 UTC  

yeah

2019-01-02 19:39:49 UTC  

mythicism? never heard of that

2019-01-02 19:40:03 UTC  

mysticism