Message from @taekahn
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anyway, the "I don't touch any kind of claim on religion" method is the agnostic approach, which is perfectly viable in secular education
not actually wanting proof but wanting to dismantle an argument
depends on intentions really
theres many ways .
some people want to destroy religion
through secularism
i can understand why
but this is like that conversation of Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson that Religion gave people something that Secularism leaves wanting so if you remove religion with Secularism it will be replaced with something entirely else
possible a new religion
There's a difference between atheism and mythicism too.
99% of religious types I've met lump the two together...
Including myself at one point
yeah
mythicism? never heard of that
mysticism
IIRC Styx outed himself as a Satanist
Maybe a thing to look at.
wanst he former(bleh)
wasnt
He also explains what it means to be a satanist
See, that link mentions up something that needs to be addressed
Atheists like to phrase their stance as "not believing in any gods."
But that's not an accurate characterization.
Atheists actively believe "there are no such thing as gods".
like it having nothing to do with satan
depends, there's different brands of satanism
At least the kind he was talking about
the word comes from lost paradise
the rebelious nature of it
though he has since left it
yeah, you have to be careful, because every practitioner of religion has a different view on it
@Stefan Payne we had problems with satanists in the 90's and early 2000's . people fucking tell me OH these Satanists in Sweden are nice people and in american they are good hearted people . . . and all i fucking know is the ones in my country crucified 12 year olds upside down and cut them open.
That is why I clarified
OK, maybe not
Satanism started as people trolling the Catholics...then it got out of hand.
Yeah
They were basically the Rebels
thinking worshipping the devil is a way of getting a opposing religion
Not to be a pedant (but i will anyways), technically speaking you can't crucify someone upsidedown.
yeah, and now some people honestly believe in basically inverse christianity.
Most of what they did was to offend the Catholic church.
you can.... it happened to peter
If not all.