I never said Token Characters.

I said I wanted the diverse characters to matter.

on one hand yes. supporting characters do need their own story arcs, but when it overshadows the MC that's when the story fails to follow it's own plot (again, that depends on if it is intentional)

It technically is a disorder, but it's not going to cause actual harm by mere existence.

@Abel its a disorder but not mental in nature

Rather it is LGBT, any race, any religion, or any political stance; I want them to matter and have their own stories.

It is though

many people conflate neurology, psychiatry and psychology though.

Only psychology is mental

Oh all right you're using a more specific terminology

Why can't we have those background plots, that really don't take the main focus of the story, but are there if you pay attention?

@Dusty MorganFun fact, there's a trans character in Alien

you're conflating psychiatry with a field of scientific study

Didn't know that Abel.

Lambert was trans

personally, I don't notice token characters (other people always have to point them out for me to see it) because all I want is a well develop character with their own issues and how they overcome them

I was told by my writing class in high school. Just relying on a single plot, you are just putting your eggs all in one basket.

And it didn't matter because she was treated as a normal character with her own faults, ambition, and character

Some people might not be invested in the main story, but they might be invested in a character's story.

(also didn't matter because she was alien fodder)

That is why it is a good idea to have a plot for all the characters, their own stories and struggles.

Alien was pretty progressive for its time, but it didn't ram it down your throat, they just made a good movie.

sometimes multiple plots become too much. Not everyone will realize what is going on until the very end, if they ever realize it

Hell look at star trek

That is why I actually... loved Dr. Who when I first started watching.

People loved it back in the day

The sub-plots.

you also run the chance of making the original plot line flat and boring

People don't care about whether a movie is progressive or conservative, they care whether it's good and interesting

Exactly Abel.

Or dependent on forcing ideology down your throat with half baked token characters like the new She Ra

if a story is well written, the sub-plots tie into the main-plot without anyone really noticing

My trans friend does not like the new She Ra

A post-op MtF

Did she explain why?

I am interested in her or his opinion.

"that new She-Ra looks like crap, they made her look like a boy."

Her exact words

That is it.... nothing about the character's personality or plot?

By the way, i dont agree with people saying the season of doctor who prior to thechick was progressive at all. quite the opposite, quite conservative. Yes, social justice showed up, it was made fun of in many cases

Nevermind.