Message from @R9b1t

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2019-01-04 22:40:12 UTC  

Maybe I have a different definition of UBI.

2019-01-04 22:40:15 UTC  

And you pay 90% of the next without replenishing

2019-01-04 22:40:22 UTC  

You’re just going to lose it all

2019-01-04 22:40:35 UTC  

Is it not a guarantee of a minimum income?

2019-01-04 22:40:36 UTC  

He’s basically just saying lower our taxes

2019-01-04 22:40:39 UTC  

yes

2019-01-04 22:40:43 UTC  

but how do you get that minimal income?

2019-01-04 22:41:18 UTC  

From the economy's surplus.

2019-01-04 22:41:33 UTC  

How do you finance any other government program?

2019-01-04 22:41:37 UTC  

tax money

2019-01-04 22:41:41 UTC  

Well then if everyone is taking it from the economy then no one is going to replenish the economy

2019-01-04 22:42:00 UTC  

if you have machines to replace all food production, you can do it everywhere

Thus making food non-tradable

2019-01-04 22:42:05 UTC  

meaning you stop getting economy surplus

2019-01-04 22:42:10 UTC  

cuz the economy in those branches stops

2019-01-04 22:42:25 UTC  

and you still have to invest resources into maintaining the machines

2019-01-04 22:42:25 UTC  

If we can automate food production then we can be satisfied

2019-01-04 22:42:30 UTC  

Which is basically it

2019-01-04 22:42:36 UTC  

A utopia is heavily controlled

2019-01-04 22:42:36 UTC  

You would calculate the budget for UPI by the number of people receiving it multiplied by the amount of income it's supposed to guarantee, roughly.

2019-01-04 22:42:38 UTC  

automate food production, and automate its automation

2019-01-04 22:42:47 UTC  

Everyone shares because there is no merit

2019-01-04 22:42:59 UTC  

No one in the giver was making the best new invention

2019-01-04 22:43:06 UTC  

Everyone was content with what they had

2019-01-04 22:43:09 UTC  

you can get UBI once you can automate automation,

At which point you don't need UBI anymore cuz theres no requirement to work

2019-01-04 22:43:19 UTC  

well

2019-01-04 22:43:19 UTC  

Hmm?

2019-01-04 22:43:34 UTC  

We have money to finance our military.

2019-01-04 22:43:36 UTC  

fact is that people with an IQ of 100 or below really have no work anymore

2019-01-04 22:43:48 UTC  

There’s still going to be people repairing shit though

2019-01-04 22:43:49 UTC  

By that logic, it would be impossible to have an army.

2019-01-04 22:43:49 UTC  

Flipping burgers? Yeah you dont need a human for that

2019-01-04 22:43:55 UTC  

^

2019-01-04 22:43:56 UTC  

fuck an army

2019-01-04 22:44:08 UTC  

Don’t need humans to kill robots can do it

2019-01-04 22:44:15 UTC  

I am just talking about UBI.

2019-01-04 22:44:18 UTC  

people have been repeating that prediction for nearly a century

2019-01-04 22:44:21 UTC  

the US constitutions 2nd amendment makes it clear that an army is not neccessary. A militia with ICBMs mounted with nuclear warheads can deal with that

2019-01-04 22:44:25 UTC  

Which is why I think drones that are piloted by a device from a pilot far away are immoral

2019-01-04 22:44:26 UTC  

you need humans to be shot though,

lower population so you get less strain on those that are still needed

2019-01-04 22:44:26 UTC  

we keep finding new shit to move the humans to

2019-01-04 22:44:44 UTC  

ICBMs with nuclear warheads are legal for indiviudals to have according to the 2nd amendment