Allways better than traditionalism

Prohibition did start from temperance movement, which was spearheaded by women.

exactly

Im really not a fan of traditionalism, but I think the feminists are on to something much worse

I am not sure about feminists, but the intersectional/marxist bunch will self destruct and we will feel that too

oh dont get me wrong, i dont support feminism. The goals are not that dissimilar from each other with the difference that feminists are incompetent

No wonder they love jihadis

By that I mean - feminist come in different varieties, and some of them are very sane (usually those second wave ones)

The thing is, I'd support it if they were honest about gender roles

Gender roles evolved with western society naturally

It isn't this nonsenical patriarchy

What I find hypocritical to the n-th degree is that masculinists are a total haram somehow

masculinists?

its cuz wamen are the masculine ones now

If one is allowed so should be the other

@Redneo Opposite of feminists

Exactly, I wish feminism was about honestly assessing the outliers who dont fit in to traditional gender roles like myself, but it isn't. It's about shitting on men and not taking any responsibility for the horrible shit women do.

So egalitarians?

😉

The male rights advocacy groups

Egalitarians are something else, and I think they are wrong

I dont

the manosphere includes:

mra

mgtow

tradcon

pua

Male and female have certain needs each. Everything outside those is a general human right.

i think that's it right

"mgtow"

4 groups

begone

faggot

@Uksio and i dont see any reason why men should cater to womens needs

THOT BEGONE?

im stuck on mgtow

like it being good or bad

Thus there is a room for advocacy for each group. Much like you need male and female-specialising doctors

idk the manosphere is just as pathetic as the third wave feminist circles

good cuz not beholden to the pussy or divorce courts or away from gynocentrism

but bad because