It isn't this nonsenical patriarchy

What I find hypocritical to the n-th degree is that masculinists are a total haram somehow

masculinists?

its cuz wamen are the masculine ones now

If one is allowed so should be the other

@Redneo Opposite of feminists

Exactly, I wish feminism was about honestly assessing the outliers who dont fit in to traditional gender roles like myself, but it isn't. It's about shitting on men and not taking any responsibility for the horrible shit women do.

So egalitarians?

😉

The male rights advocacy groups

Egalitarians are something else, and I think they are wrong

I dont

the manosphere includes:

mra

mgtow

tradcon

pua

Male and female have certain needs each. Everything outside those is a general human right.

i think that's it right

"mgtow"

4 groups

begone

faggot

@Uksio and i dont see any reason why men should cater to womens needs

THOT BEGONE?

im stuck on mgtow

like it being good or bad

Thus there is a room for advocacy for each group. Much like you need male and female-specialising doctors

idk the manosphere is just as pathetic as the third wave feminist circles

good cuz not beholden to the pussy or divorce courts or away from gynocentrism

but bad because

no marriage or offspring

nothing to pass on your genes

🤔

so im 50/50 on mgtow

@!dammnation3(Liberalist) whats bad about no marriage? And, no, it doesnt mean no offspring

idk what mra truly is i

the manosphere and modern feminists should just fuck and create whiney obnoxious pc babies that cry about everything being oppressive.

surrogacy is a thing

@dobatag Why should it be good or bad? MGTOW is one of the least harmful ones IMO

until the MGTOWS turn incel