Free will is volition

There is a mountain of data on how our brains work.

I.e Brain/mind debate

Well I agree that our choices are influenced but we should still hold ourselves accountable @ThreeOfOne

just cause there's no proof doesn't mean it's not true, it only means it hasnt been proven

I also agree

I was vague lol

Wait let me get to the pc i love this kind of phylosofical debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8QE3B_rG9w

how does one make a decision? well they use their judgement, which is based on their past.
so free will is both real and deterministic. we definitely have it.

i'm not spiritual

Daisy's great

I view it was a sort of noble lie, that individuals are accountable for their actions because no social system can survive on the concept that we aren't

Proof Tim is alt right <:NPC:500042527231967262>

She just did a Patreon deletion stream last night too

Neuroscience exists, obviously

but i sure as fuck dont think that our mind is just piece of fleshy machinery

Just because we can't prove pixies don't exist doesnt mean it's not true

free will does not mean random

I am still surprise it is monetize

@Zuihou lol

If free will existed then you would lead your stream of consciousness instead of your stream of consciousness leading you.

if we don't have free will

Dang it, I was just about to write about Godel's incompleteness theorems too

then nobody is responsible for anything

there's some pretty funny arguments you can use to discount free will

like ask anyone to come up with a random sequence of numbers

If we didnt have free will it doesnt matter

We are still we

I think our choices are mostly based on survival instinct and our fight (or lack of) to be on the top of social hierarchy. @ThreeOfOne I think we’re just intelligent animals

And we act the same

odds are the numbers they produce are not random and are probably related to something recent

no, umm, that's animals ;P

@Timcast I am not conservative, but I am center right leaning. I think the laws shouldn't allow pre-surgery trans individuals into opposite sex shower until they go through surgery. I think they should be a intermediate bathroom for individuals going through the procedure till they are completely done. Does that sound reasonable? Not only does it protect females from predators, it also establishes a safe zone for trans individuals from being attacked until they are completely transitioned. The problem is most districts will not fund complete over hall, so this would be good and would most likely be passed.

We are animals

i can't imagine how for example fapping helps us survive or be on top of social hierarchy

@Montgomereeeee yep, I agree there

@Strufa go for it bro

again free will is not random and it's not supposed to be, which makes me wonder what kind of definition people have of free will

You wanted right leaning individuals opinions on this, this is my idea of a solution.

Give me a chance Tho i'm in my phone and this shit auto-corrects everything into spanish