Message from @Grenade123

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2019-01-30 23:26:09 UTC  

Critical thinking comes in at around 8

2019-01-30 23:26:33 UTC  

Well its hard to have critical thinking without reading/writing abilities.

2019-01-30 23:27:07 UTC  

@stedly islamic text actually cannot be read at all, literally cannot be read by anyone. It is 'interpted' by people because they lack vowels in their written language

2019-01-30 23:27:11 UTC  

@stedly actualy, with thinking you learn to read just from seeing writing around you.

2019-01-30 23:27:21 UTC  

@Misomania This is correct sir.

2019-01-30 23:27:29 UTC  

@stedly i started reading at the age of 4 myself

2019-01-30 23:27:31 UTC  

Jonathan Haidt refers to a bunch of experiments by developmental psychologists. They discovered that around 7-8, children start learning about how to subvert and twist law, and question authority

2019-01-30 23:27:58 UTC  

All this happens naturally, too

2019-01-30 23:28:02 UTC  

@Redneo So a lot of them don't learn to read/write any language until 15. Does that mean they're Slow or is it their culture?

2019-01-30 23:28:17 UTC  

@Redneo the matter is that no one can read islamic text. It's impossible to read a language that is missing all of it's vowels in it's written text

2019-01-30 23:28:29 UTC  

It is with context

2019-01-30 23:28:31 UTC  

unfortunately, they will only twist and subvert in a general direction. the same direction as the rest of the society around them

2019-01-30 23:28:39 UTC  

^^

2019-01-30 23:28:42 UTC  

you guess what it says based on context and memory

2019-01-30 23:28:46 UTC  

Correct. Its the herd mentality nonsense again.

2019-01-30 23:28:46 UTC  

hold on

2019-01-30 23:28:52 UTC  

i see piaget

2019-01-30 23:28:55 UTC  

look at what happens when you shelter a kid.

2019-01-30 23:28:57 UTC  

Why is that there?

2019-01-30 23:29:07 UTC  

Good read.

2019-01-30 23:29:10 UTC  

Haidt, too.

2019-01-30 23:29:23 UTC  

Development psychology, actually critical thinking comes in at around 12 with the caveat that not everyone develops it

2019-01-30 23:29:35 UTC  

That sounds a bit late.

2019-01-30 23:29:46 UTC  

Piagets most profound theory is that we have adults walking around with the mentality of young teenagers

2019-01-30 23:29:54 UTC  

@stedly can be both, they created their culture to meet their physical development needs. Nature and nurture form in concert to each other

2019-01-30 23:29:57 UTC  

Yes, rarely, though.

2019-01-30 23:30:08 UTC  

He was primarily interested in childhood development.

2019-01-30 23:30:24 UTC  

well demi humans grow physically as they level up

2019-01-30 23:30:26 UTC  

unlike humans.

2019-01-30 23:30:29 UTC  

Not rarely, commonly

2019-01-30 23:30:35 UTC  

@Misomania is their culture "efficient" though, especially for innovation and free-thinking

2019-01-30 23:30:48 UTC  

Quite a few "adults" in our society we let drive and vote are like old children

2019-01-30 23:30:52 UTC  

I don't remember Piaget taking that position.

2019-01-30 23:30:58 UTC  

It's implied

2019-01-30 23:31:01 UTC  

@stedly considering they were the branch that lived? seems to be the most efficient variant that was tried

2019-01-30 23:31:08 UTC  

@stedly there is no time to think in islam. there is a prayer you have to say for everything

2019-01-30 23:31:16 UTC  

cant sleep? There is this prayer for it

2019-01-30 23:31:24 UTC  

arriving at your home? Heres this prayer