Message from @BlueAndBlack

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2019-01-30 23:28:17 UTC  

@Redneo the matter is that no one can read islamic text. It's impossible to read a language that is missing all of it's vowels in it's written text

2019-01-30 23:28:29 UTC  

It is with context

2019-01-30 23:28:31 UTC  

unfortunately, they will only twist and subvert in a general direction. the same direction as the rest of the society around them

2019-01-30 23:28:39 UTC  

^^

2019-01-30 23:28:42 UTC  

you guess what it says based on context and memory

2019-01-30 23:28:46 UTC  

Correct. Its the herd mentality nonsense again.

2019-01-30 23:28:46 UTC  

hold on

2019-01-30 23:28:52 UTC  

i see piaget

2019-01-30 23:28:55 UTC  

look at what happens when you shelter a kid.

2019-01-30 23:28:57 UTC  

Why is that there?

2019-01-30 23:29:07 UTC  

Good read.

2019-01-30 23:29:10 UTC  

Haidt, too.

2019-01-30 23:29:23 UTC  

Development psychology, actually critical thinking comes in at around 12 with the caveat that not everyone develops it

2019-01-30 23:29:35 UTC  

That sounds a bit late.

2019-01-30 23:29:46 UTC  

Piagets most profound theory is that we have adults walking around with the mentality of young teenagers

2019-01-30 23:29:54 UTC  

@stedly can be both, they created their culture to meet their physical development needs. Nature and nurture form in concert to each other

2019-01-30 23:29:57 UTC  

Yes, rarely, though.

2019-01-30 23:30:08 UTC  

He was primarily interested in childhood development.

2019-01-30 23:30:24 UTC  

well demi humans grow physically as they level up

2019-01-30 23:30:26 UTC  

unlike humans.

2019-01-30 23:30:29 UTC  

Not rarely, commonly

2019-01-30 23:30:35 UTC  

@Misomania is their culture "efficient" though, especially for innovation and free-thinking

2019-01-30 23:30:48 UTC  

Quite a few "adults" in our society we let drive and vote are like old children

2019-01-30 23:30:52 UTC  

I don't remember Piaget taking that position.

2019-01-30 23:30:58 UTC  

It's implied

2019-01-30 23:31:01 UTC  

@stedly considering they were the branch that lived? seems to be the most efficient variant that was tried

2019-01-30 23:31:08 UTC  

@stedly there is no time to think in islam. there is a prayer you have to say for everything

2019-01-30 23:31:16 UTC  

cant sleep? There is this prayer for it

2019-01-30 23:31:24 UTC  

arriving at your home? Heres this prayer

2019-01-30 23:31:29 UTC  

When I can't sleep I meditate...

2019-01-30 23:31:33 UTC  

entering a car? heres this

2019-01-30 23:31:45 UTC  

just means that for them, in that environment that all other attempts at culture died

2019-01-30 23:32:09 UTC  

@BlueAndBlack well whats preventing you from sleeping really is movement.

2019-01-30 23:32:18 UTC  

if you dont move your body it will fall asleep.

2019-01-30 23:32:21 UTC  

but

2019-01-30 23:32:23 UTC  

you see, the problem with that theory is an assumption that there is really much of a difference between adults and teenagers outside of lived experience. at least to the point that we care.

2019-01-30 23:32:30 UTC  

you feel itchy if your body falls asleep before your mind does

2019-01-30 23:32:42 UTC  

thus typicly you move

2019-01-30 23:33:32 UTC  

It often takes ages until I can sleep. mostly because I have to find a comfortable position

2019-01-30 23:33:50 UTC  

and turn off my head

2019-01-30 23:33:56 UTC  

No, I think we have sufficient evidence that most normal people mature until their late 20s.