i thought rational meant to be in ratio with reality

We are both irrational.

Some things are objectively not caring about human feelings, like laws of the universe

thats cuz you don't actually agree on it at that point

it's subjective is what @Dr.Wol is saying

Undead

If you thought it was, and someone said otherwise, you'd think them irrational

You misunderstand

Yes, some things are objective.

but you don't believe it yourself, so you call yourself irrational for thinking it

if you hear something you don't agree with, you will think the person saying it is being irrational @Undead Mockingbird

In so far as they cause no contradictions in the models we are able to construct through our empiricism.

that's just how we work

He is saying that rationality is relative to perspective

Humans evloved emotions to survive within a group. Empathy is a hell of a drug.

it might be relative to our understanding of reality yeah

You both would think each other ration if you both believed the sun was made of cheese

Does not mean it is the best tool to apply to everything

THat is the fundamental difference in argumentation between Francis Bacon and Karl Popper.

But no one else would

mm bacon

Otherwise we get glacial feminism or somesuch

bacon poppers

that sounds good

gonna make that sometime

Eh, anyway. I need coffee.

there is objective truth, and there is the attempt to approximate objective truth to the best of our abilities with varying success between individuals

Mongloids are very sleepy.

Scientific method is a far more reliable tool for figuring out stuff that actually works.

if they're sleepy they need coffee 😉

i think someone can objectively be more rational than someone else

you're looking for the word "tiring"

or exhausting

Regardless of how I feel about the hot stove, it will burn my skin all the same

SCIENCE

the thing is, your view of rationality is dictated by your beliefs @NativeInterface

Iksio lel

thats irrational!! everyone knows the reason you get burnt is cuz its actually GODS STOVE, and he's punishing you for touching it @Uksio

well why does that matter?

it results in people having different conclusions about reality

what is reality tho