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There are a lot of religious and non-religious.

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@Drewski4343 why doesn’t he make us kinder, while still giving us free will?

Pretty good, you?

im ok

Make us kinder? Like, alter our personalities?

Evidently, the question of religion really isn't one of Science, due to the lack of a provable or disprovable method about it. So what happens by accordance to Scientific Protocol is it is actually classified as Philosophy.

That’s not what I mean.

If you are curious, the same thing happened early on in Quantum Mechanics

Different species have different levels of social standards.

Why not start us off with kindness?

Or entirely different social standards, in some cases.

If god doesn’t intervene, why do people still pray?

Moral good and evil are not as black and white as we'd like to say...

He gives them answers apparently @Oceanic

And who is to say that our understanding of good and evil are objective at all?

And once something good happens it gets blamed on him

Because babies start off completely open to impression. How they turn out is at the free will of the parents or guardians.

Generally, anyway.

Eh I dont think free will is real - we make decisions based on our situation and previous experiences

Agreed. Cause and effect.

Sure...but whose to say that *isn't* free will?

exactly

Free doesn't always require the same connotation.

Nobody, but that is how we make decisions

Evidently, many arguments stem out of a disagreement on definition.

Yep

It’s not random, it’s chaos. Chaos is still predictable. If I knew every function of your brain and the events that would affect your life, I could accurately predict a decision of yours.

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Yes

IMO Free Will isn't whether choices stem from a collective functioning of one's self, but rather if one can act against a particular stimuli at a particular time, regardless of what it may be.

Oh man, one of my favorite concepts...

I see what you're saying, but that pattern of decision making could have gone any which way in the development process.

Psychohistory

Isaac Asimov wrote about it as a fundamental premise to his Sci-Fi series

Very good books

oh interesting

Drew, as you said, people are impressionable. If I knew the events that would occur, I could tell you which way that development would go.

Psychohistory, if you are curious, is this idea that while individuals themselves are quite complex and intricate beings, a 'mob' of people become infinitely more predictable and patternistic in their behavior. Meaning that within a certain margin of error, you can calculate probabilities of eventual outcomes by deducing the actions of a mass.