@Citizen Z The balloon doesn’t rise due to density alone, although that DOES have an effect. Gravity pulls the heaviest mass down, and air is heavier than helium. The balloon’s mass is heavier than air, but the helium suspends it. As the air is pulled down more than the helium, pressure will make the helium rise. Without gravity, balloons wouldn’t float. In a vacuum chamber, the balloon won’t float as it doesn’t have any heavier mass outside of it pushing it up as the mass seeks the lowest possible ground. This is also why water rises in a bath when you enter it, instead of you just floating on top of the water. This phenomenon is called buoyancy.

That’s- wait, really?

People actually think nukes are fake?

...I lose faith in humanity each day.

Mhm. Some kind of force acting upon it.

Thanks for clarifying for others, I forgot to put that in.

As long as something is being forced, for lack of better word, harder than something else, and that mass is malleable, the other mass will be affected by buoyancy.

Heh.

If I was a serial killer, this would be my argument against god: Is he willing to stop me, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then why am I still alive?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

And yeah, for you Saturn, I don’t care what you believe in as long as you don’t go out of your way to try and convert people

Like some nut job.

Religion and spirituality is part of being human, I get that.

As long as people don’t force it on others, it’s fine.

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@manga did you not read the context I gave? It’s essentially saying that if god existed, why do murders and hate still happen? Isn’t he omnipotent?

Also, why does Christianity show god as a male? Why not a female, or maybe ungendered?

If he doesn’t, he’s malevolent, which defeats the purpose of praying to him.

Why ask for help from someone who wishes the opposite on you?

@Drewski4343 why doesn’t he make us kinder, while still giving us free will?

That’s not what I mean.

Different species have different levels of social standards.

Why not start us off with kindness?

If god doesn’t intervene, why do people still pray?

Agreed. Cause and effect.

It’s not random, it’s chaos. Chaos is still predictable. If I knew every function of your brain and the events that would affect your life, I could accurately predict a decision of yours.

Drew, as you said, people are impressionable. If I knew the events that would occur, I could tell you which way that development would go.

Nothing is random, (except the decay chance of a radioactive isotope with a 50/50 half life, which is why it’s used in the thought experiment of Schrödinger’s cat.)

Which requires true randomness for that superposition to take effect.

Yep.

Citizen, do you think a balloon would still float without gravity?

^

This has happened with Scott Kelly.

True.

Ah, satellites!

They need to adjust internal clocks every few months due to moving at relativists speeds.

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The second commercial Spaceflight is available, I’m buying tickets for as many flat earthers as possible.

Good point.

Ah, what the hell, I’ll wait until they’re cheaper in the far future.

If flat earthers still exist then.

(Which I doubt.)

Flat earthers only deem sources reputable if they agree with them.

They can conduct their own experiments with enough money.

What also bugs me about them is that they don’t listen to logic. You show them the calculations, the reasons why things are, and they just throw it away and call it fake.

I’ve always wanted to see a physical argument between an astrophysicist and a flat earther.

Hello.

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G’night.

Uh what

Yep

See, I’m atheist.

I doubt this’ll happen.

Eh, for me the hour just ain’t coming.

What’s been described defies physics.

And if there is a god, the game maker still has to follow the rules of the game.

Sigh.

Your models aren’t to scale, which makes them incorrect.

You need a MUCH bigger sphere compared to your observer.

Do you believe the earth, if it is flat, spins?

Tell me, why would every country on the planet (some who are warring AGAINST each other, mind you!) work together to lie about the shape of the planet? What would they have to gain? Do you think war is fake as well?

Yeah, no. Gravity would have it collapse on itself without support.

Do you not believe in gravity either?

I’ll get back to you on that one, but next point. A flat earth would collapse on itself.

And why would all these countries lie?

Some are trying to kill each other.

And you think they’d work together to hide the shape of the earth?

What would spaceX have to gain here?

What about the day/night cycle?

Does the sun go below or something?

Or do you think it goes around the flat earth?

You can’t just ignore my questions.

Heh. I should’ve expected as much. Flat earthers avoiding questions they can’t answer.

I’m not the one claiming the planet is flat here.

If anyone’s avoiding reality, it’s you.

Are you religous?

We’ve taken measurements before, and we have proof. All you do is call it fake, only believing sources that side with you.

What’s that called again? Oh, cherry-picking.

I’d say the same to you.

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A tangent is what you’re going on right now, avoiding my questions.

A tangent is actually the correct direction a function at any given time.

But you can’t just avoid my questions.

You haven’t.

How does the day night cycle work on your flat earth?

HOW?

On your first diagram, it’s false.

The higher lines would see a farther horizon.

Lower lines would see closer.

It’s why you see a longer sunset on a plane.

To someone on the ground, the sun might have already set.

You do realize that sunlight isn’t localized? In the diagram before your last, it would still be light up.

Carbon dating cahows the earth is older than 6000 years by FAR.

They’re up north, because of the earth’s spin, the sun doesn’t go below the horizon.

That’s an alternative answer, but it isn’t backed up with science.

Why do you think all these space agencies would lie?

Profit?

Why do you trust them and not us?

If all these people can lie, certainly a single person can as well?

Lol

@Boften_jkl one of these days, when commercial space flight is available, we gotta send some flat earthers to space. See what they think.