Message from @Saturn
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And who is to say that our understanding of good and evil are objective at all?
And once something good happens it gets blamed on him
Because babies start off completely open to impression. How they turn out is at the free will of the parents or guardians.
Generally, anyway.
Eh I dont think free will is real - we make decisions based on our situation and previous experiences
Agreed. Cause and effect.
Sure...but whose to say that *isn't* free will?
exactly
Free doesn't always require the same connotation.
Nobody, but that is how we make decisions
Evidently, many arguments stem out of a disagreement on definition.
Yep
It’s not random, it’s chaos. Chaos is still predictable. If I knew every function of your brain and the events that would affect your life, I could accurately predict a decision of yours.
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Yes
IMO Free Will isn't whether choices stem from a collective functioning of one's self, but rather if one can act against a particular stimuli at a particular time, regardless of what it may be.
Oh man, one of my favorite concepts...
I see what you're saying, but that pattern of decision making could have gone any which way in the development process.
Psychohistory
Very good books
oh interesting
Drew, as you said, people are impressionable. If I knew the events that would occur, I could tell you which way that development would go.
Psychohistory, if you are curious, is this idea that while individuals themselves are quite complex and intricate beings, a 'mob' of people become infinitely more predictable and patternistic in their behavior. Meaning that within a certain margin of error, you can calculate probabilities of eventual outcomes by deducing the actions of a mass.
The one caveat being, that if an individual has enough tenacity to dramatically alter history, they can throw off the balance of said calculations.
And that is the fundamental story idea in the Foundation Trilogy
Nothing is random, (except the decay chance of a radioactive isotope with a 50/50 half life, which is why it’s used in the thought experiment of Schrödinger’s cat.)
Evidently, Schrodinger's Cat isn't exactly random either.
Nor is it prior
It exists as a Superposition of two eventualities
Where, the deduction and measurement of those forces the collision of one or the other.
Which requires true randomness for that superposition to take effect.
Well, a certain degree of randomness
More of a range of possibility
Or of potential outcomes
The range of solutions to a superposition
Consciousness pervades all energy and matter
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