Message from @Koninos

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2020-03-08 21:03:59 UTC  

But Stoicism is the best way to deal with pain, in my opinion.

2020-03-08 21:04:40 UTC  

maybe in your case

2020-03-08 21:05:05 UTC  

Kinda right not everyone does

2020-03-08 21:08:01 UTC  

Stoicism might seem unhealthy at an X moment, but when in a Y moment, you face pain again, you're stronger, you can face the pain more easily and not let it affect you, so in the long-term, it's healthy. @moira

2020-03-08 21:09:28 UTC  

Not exactly

2020-03-08 21:09:41 UTC  

everyone deals with pain differently

2020-03-08 21:09:49 UTC  

some people deal with it better by talking to people

2020-03-08 21:10:01 UTC  

some people deal with it better by shutting themselves in

2020-03-08 21:10:06 UTC  

it really depends on the person

2020-03-08 21:10:18 UTC  

if you can hide your emotions and pain then good for you

2020-03-08 21:10:25 UTC  

but not everyone is like you

2020-03-08 21:11:08 UTC  

Yeah okay, nobody's saying that everyone should be a Stoic.

2020-03-08 21:11:27 UTC  

But Stoicism should be involved with parenting, since the child is taught how to deal with pain.

2020-03-08 21:11:40 UTC  

you literally promoted it for parenting

2020-03-08 21:12:00 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-08 21:12:37 UTC  

when dealing with pain in a child, it is best to sit them down and talk with them about it

2020-03-08 21:12:48 UTC  

now of course they shouldn't be a crybaby

2020-03-08 21:12:57 UTC  

but you can't just tell them to lock it all up

2020-03-08 21:12:57 UTC  

Children, when they are young, don't know how to control their emotions. Stoicism, in my opinion, is the best way to control your emotions, because of how it can help you in the long-term.

2020-03-08 21:13:11 UTC  

Stoicism isn't about bottling emotions.

2020-03-08 21:13:32 UTC  

It's about facing them.

2020-03-08 21:14:03 UTC  

there are multiple ways to face them

2020-03-08 21:14:08 UTC  

then just locking them up

2020-03-08 21:14:22 UTC  

Again stop repeating that

2020-03-08 21:14:27 UTC  

You're strawmaning stoicism

2020-03-08 21:14:29 UTC  

it's about dealing with them in a healthy and/or productive way

2020-03-08 21:14:46 UTC  

like when you're angry you can either punch the guy that pissed you off in the face

2020-03-08 21:14:47 UTC  

Stop repeating its "locking up emotions" when we've already said 3 times that that's not what it is

2020-03-08 21:14:48 UTC  

or fix problem

2020-03-08 21:14:56 UTC  

No no, Stoicism does not involve locking up emotions.

2020-03-08 21:15:22 UTC  

think of walking the dog when he's whining instead of locking him up in a cage

2020-03-08 21:15:22 UTC  

The lack of display of pain is a product of facing pain, which comes naturally. Thus it's not forced.

2020-03-08 21:15:39 UTC  

@Ronin Bad example, ngl

2020-03-08 21:15:55 UTC  

it is literally keeping your emotions to yourself

2020-03-08 21:15:59 UTC  

this

2020-03-08 21:16:03 UTC  

you are locking them to yourself

2020-03-08 21:16:15 UTC  

a stoic person is still angry but doesn't directly act on it

2020-03-08 21:16:22 UTC  

also your wrong you can face pain while displaying it

2020-03-08 21:16:39 UTC  

No, that comes through facing the pain, it comes naturally. It's not forced, it comes naturally.

2020-03-08 21:17:03 UTC  

Stop saying that Stoicism is about bottling emotions, That's clearly not what Stoicism is about.

2020-03-08 21:17:39 UTC  

that is not what I said that time