Message from @moira
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And yet there are some uneducated, irrational individuals, who claim that Stoicism is a synonym for masochism, and that it should be avoided.
That is simply disgraceful.
When your affirmation for life is contingent on materials outside your body (such as wealth, attention, or drugs), then if you are deprived of that material then you can no longer affirm life
> If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.
-Marcus Aurelius.
The one who affirms their life through being virtuous can never be willingly deprived of their joy.
Based.
You shouldn't keep emotions under wraps
bottling up emotions is one of the worse things you can do
stoicism isnt about "bottling up emotions" lmao
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that is exactly what it is, hiding your emotions
Stoicism is about facing and enduring pain.
Which is unhealthy
How?
everyone deals with pain differently
Obviously.
But Stoicism is the best way to deal with pain, in my opinion.
maybe in your case
Kinda right not everyone does
Stoicism might seem unhealthy at an X moment, but when in a Y moment, you face pain again, you're stronger, you can face the pain more easily and not let it affect you, so in the long-term, it's healthy. @moira
everyone deals with pain differently
some people deal with it better by talking to people
some people deal with it better by shutting themselves in
it really depends on the person
if you can hide your emotions and pain then good for you
but not everyone is like you
Yeah okay, nobody's saying that everyone should be a Stoic.
But Stoicism should be involved with parenting, since the child is taught how to deal with pain.
you literally promoted it for parenting
Yes.
when dealing with pain in a child, it is best to sit them down and talk with them about it
now of course they shouldn't be a crybaby
but you can't just tell them to lock it all up
Children, when they are young, don't know how to control their emotions. Stoicism, in my opinion, is the best way to control your emotions, because of how it can help you in the long-term.
Stoicism isn't about bottling emotions.
It's about facing them.
there are multiple ways to face them
then just locking them up
Again stop repeating that
You're strawmaning stoicism