Message from @moira

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2020-03-08 21:35:58 UTC  

So if they're more likely to go to hell instead of heaven, because of something that they didn't choose, then God is kind of a jerk, which I refuse to accept.

2020-03-08 21:36:37 UTC  

How do you reach salvation then

2020-03-08 21:37:00 UTC  

This sounds like /religion/

2020-03-08 21:37:04 UTC  

By becoming born again

2020-03-08 21:37:15 UTC  

Which is thru a baptism, and repentance

2020-03-08 21:37:46 UTC  

But that's besides the point, I don't see how any of this is relevant to your misunderstanding of stoicism

2020-03-08 21:38:09 UTC  

@Maksim Religion and philosophy are not mutually exclusive.

2020-03-08 21:38:22 UTC  

Sometimes they are, sometimes they're not.

2020-03-08 21:38:39 UTC  

When are they mutually exclussive?

2020-03-08 21:38:55 UTC  

How can a psychopath repent for sins they dont even know are wrong

2020-03-08 21:39:01 UTC  

And yeah that was drawn offtopic

2020-03-08 21:39:21 UTC  

phows a stoic going to respond to their kid if he suffers a breakup

2020-03-08 21:39:31 UTC  

or their pets death

2020-03-08 21:39:54 UTC  

The kid should be ready to face that pain. @moira

2020-03-08 21:39:57 UTC  

Theology and Philosophy are mutually exclusive

2020-03-08 21:40:01 UTC  

Because it'll make it stronger.

2020-03-08 21:40:08 UTC  

@Maksim Not always.

2020-03-08 21:40:09 UTC  

*it*

2020-03-08 21:40:29 UTC  

You're confusing epistomology with emotions. They can know that what they did was wrong, without feeling an "emotional" connection with it

2020-03-08 21:41:16 UTC  

@Koninos not what i asked

2020-03-08 21:41:23 UTC  

how is a stoic going to help him deal

2020-03-08 21:41:24 UTC  

What did you ask?

2020-03-08 21:41:26 UTC  

Kh

2020-03-08 21:41:40 UTC  

@Sentient23 That’s off topic from the original discussion

2020-03-08 21:41:44 UTC  

Well, through facing the pain.

2020-03-08 21:42:30 UTC  

Wow

2020-03-08 21:43:07 UTC  

Very helpful to an undeveloped teen going through his first heavy emotional blow

2020-03-08 21:43:27 UTC  

Dear, you either face the pain or let the pain consume you.

2020-03-08 21:43:47 UTC  

Not really

2020-03-08 21:43:50 UTC  

The way the teen will face the pain is irrelevant to the current topic, but I must ask, what do you suggest the parent does?

2020-03-08 21:43:57 UTC  

you can face the pain while still displaying it

2020-03-08 21:44:14 UTC  

Displaying it is not necessary.

2020-03-08 21:44:17 UTC  

and release of emotion also helps

2020-03-08 21:44:47 UTC  

Yeah okay, these are ways to face the pain, but again you're assuming that stoicism is about bottling up the pain.

2020-03-08 21:45:22 UTC  

Why did he date her anyway. Wait until marriage, and let me as the father pick which Aryan it's going to be

2020-03-08 21:46:14 UTC  

No

2020-03-08 21:46:40 UTC  

But if you want to talk about the displaying of emotions, I'll let you know that not showing your feelings, builds you a stronger image. And with a stronger image, you become more confident.

2020-03-08 21:47:10 UTC  

He dated her because he liked her and thought she was a good fit for him

2020-03-08 21:47:20 UTC  

Displaying it can hold you back from facing it.

2020-03-08 21:48:07 UTC  

How is this different from bottling it up

2020-03-08 21:48:51 UTC  

Not displaying it can actually help some people. It depends on the individual, however.