Message from @moira

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2020-03-08 21:41:16 UTC  

@Koninos not what i asked

2020-03-08 21:41:23 UTC  

how is a stoic going to help him deal

2020-03-08 21:41:24 UTC  

What did you ask?

2020-03-08 21:41:26 UTC  

Kh

2020-03-08 21:41:40 UTC  

@Sentient23 That’s off topic from the original discussion

2020-03-08 21:41:44 UTC  

Well, through facing the pain.

2020-03-08 21:42:30 UTC  

Wow

2020-03-08 21:43:07 UTC  

Very helpful to an undeveloped teen going through his first heavy emotional blow

2020-03-08 21:43:27 UTC  

Dear, you either face the pain or let the pain consume you.

2020-03-08 21:43:47 UTC  

Not really

2020-03-08 21:43:50 UTC  

The way the teen will face the pain is irrelevant to the current topic, but I must ask, what do you suggest the parent does?

2020-03-08 21:43:57 UTC  

you can face the pain while still displaying it

2020-03-08 21:44:14 UTC  

Displaying it is not necessary.

2020-03-08 21:44:17 UTC  

and release of emotion also helps

2020-03-08 21:44:47 UTC  

Yeah okay, these are ways to face the pain, but again you're assuming that stoicism is about bottling up the pain.

2020-03-08 21:45:22 UTC  

Why did he date her anyway. Wait until marriage, and let me as the father pick which Aryan it's going to be

2020-03-08 21:46:14 UTC  

No

2020-03-08 21:46:40 UTC  

But if you want to talk about the displaying of emotions, I'll let you know that not showing your feelings, builds you a stronger image. And with a stronger image, you become more confident.

2020-03-08 21:47:10 UTC  

He dated her because he liked her and thought she was a good fit for him

2020-03-08 21:47:20 UTC  

Displaying it can hold you back from facing it.

2020-03-08 21:48:07 UTC  

How is this different from bottling it up

2020-03-08 21:48:51 UTC  

Not displaying it can actually help some people. It depends on the individual, however.

2020-03-08 21:48:52 UTC  

You’re less likely to overcome pain if you face it by yourself

2020-03-08 21:49:14 UTC  

Stoicism doesn't require facing the pain by yourself.

2020-03-08 21:49:34 UTC  

Especially when it is involved in parenting, as I mentioned earlier.

2020-03-08 21:49:39 UTC  

But that what i said

2020-03-08 21:50:09 UTC  

How do you expect to face pain with someone else if you don’t show it

2020-03-08 21:50:35 UTC  

Showing it is not a necessity for facing pain lol

2020-03-08 21:50:49 UTC  

What's the inference point there?

2020-03-08 21:51:13 UTC  

Its not

2020-03-08 21:51:26 UTC  

> You’re less likely to overcome pain if you face it by yourself
@moira

2020-03-08 21:51:39 UTC  

You said it was
> How do you expect to face pain with someone else if you don’t show it

2020-03-08 21:51:39 UTC  

Individualism is not required in Stoicism.

2020-03-08 21:52:41 UTC  

Because > Stoicism doesn't require facing the pain by yourself.

2020-03-08 21:52:59 UTC  

@Koninos Also that goes against the definition of stoicism

2020-03-08 21:53:14 UTC  

What you found in Google isn't a correct or complete definition.

2020-03-08 21:53:26 UTC  

Not all definitions in Google are correct.

2020-03-08 21:54:32 UTC  

And yet again, many Stoics have found the display of pain in the attempt of the individual to face the pain, unnecessary.

2020-03-08 21:54:44 UTC  

But that depends on the person.

2020-03-08 21:55:04 UTC  

And here I come, saying that it should be involved in parenting, so more people get to face pain without displaying it.

2020-03-08 21:55:18 UTC  

Because the display of pain can hold you back from facing it.