That literally ends the argument right there

Provide evidence that those who go to jail reoffend more than those who go to therapy in terms of pedophilia

@moira Yes you do mate. Even mainstream atheists agree

with this

You mean in terms of sexual violence?

Yes

Pedophilia and sexual offense aren't synonymous

You don't

Well we were referring about "making an offense'

am I a mainstream atheist?

pedophilia in and of itself isnt an offense

No

sexual violence is

morals come from the society

actually you know what

my religion says pedophilia is bade

@moira Just do me a favor. Make a moral proposition, and keep on asking the why. Just do that

it's my religion so I can do what I want with it

You'll eventually come to the point where foundationally as an atheist, you wont have a justification

Literally the overwhelming majority of atheists agree with this because its not a controversial claim

They just say "Ok but people sitll wont do it"

So people can’t be moral without God?

and i have a god dude

again people can be moral without God

Morality depends on what the society believes

And we live in a society

Yikes. Do you reckognize the distinction between "ability to be moral without god" and "ability to justify morality without god"

Where pedophilia is immoral

So don't strawman me again weakling

woah we bringing out the personal insults

Yes because you strawmaned me

Here let me do it again. You're a weakling for strawmaning me instead of addressing my actual argument

So, you gonna address the actual argument now, or what?

those two ideas go hand in hand

you need to justify the morality of something in order to see something as moral

No they don't. I know fascist atheists who are moral in terms of how they act. And yet they still can't justify their morality

No

That's obviously incorrect

i am saying that that was not a strawman

And I'm saying it was a strawman because i never said you cant be moral without god

Being moral means acting out in a moral manner