Message from @Sentient23

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2020-03-10 00:19:10 UTC  

no but you get help to diminish that urge

2020-03-10 00:19:29 UTC  

no it is not immoral to be in a mental institution

2020-03-10 00:19:33 UTC  

You realize that's impossible

2020-03-10 00:19:43 UTC  

Its impossible to cure pedophiles

2020-03-10 00:19:49 UTC  

Which is why people wanna just kill them

2020-03-10 00:20:13 UTC  

google it

Those who are given therapy are statistically less likely to reoffense

2020-03-10 00:20:29 UTC  

me going to a mental institution would entail me not raping kids, but me not raping kids would harm me mentally

2020-03-10 00:20:57 UTC  

@✧☽ 𝒹 𝓇 𝑒 𝒢 𝓂 𝒾 𝓃 𝑔 ☾✧ Incorrect. You need to prove that its the therapy that does it not the fear of jail

There's legitimate statistics on the reoffense rate of those who are given therapy and those who aren't and those who do receive it reoffense less

2020-03-10 00:21:11 UTC  

Incorrect. You need to prove that its the therapy that does it not the fear of jail

Well it's consistent with rehabilitation oriented crime stats across the world

2020-03-10 00:21:22 UTC  

Ok?

Which are proven to be more effective in lowering offense rates than prison systems

2020-03-10 00:21:31 UTC  

How does that demonstrate its the therapy rather than fear of jail

Well you are aware that the ones who go to jail reoffend more than those who get treatment?

2020-03-10 00:21:54 UTC  

that you don't need religion to justify that public indecency is bad

That literally ends the argument right there

2020-03-10 00:22:18 UTC  

Provide evidence that those who go to jail reoffend more than those who go to therapy in terms of pedophilia

2020-03-10 00:22:26 UTC  

@moira Yes you do mate. Even mainstream atheists agree

2020-03-10 00:22:28 UTC  

with this

2020-03-10 00:22:35 UTC  

Yes

Pedophilia and sexual offense aren't synonymous

2020-03-10 00:22:49 UTC  

You don't

2020-03-10 00:22:53 UTC  

Well we were referring about "making an offense'

2020-03-10 00:22:59 UTC  

am I a mainstream atheist?

2020-03-10 00:23:01 UTC  

pedophilia in and of itself isnt an offense

2020-03-10 00:23:01 UTC  

No

2020-03-10 00:23:03 UTC  

sexual violence is

2020-03-10 00:23:08 UTC  

morals come from the society

2020-03-10 00:23:17 UTC  

actually you know what

2020-03-10 00:23:23 UTC  

my religion says pedophilia is bade

2020-03-10 00:23:24 UTC  

@moira Just do me a favor. Make a moral proposition, and keep on asking the why. Just do that

2020-03-10 00:23:30 UTC  

it's my religion so I can do what I want with it

2020-03-10 00:23:40 UTC  

You'll eventually come to the point where foundationally as an atheist, you wont have a justification

2020-03-10 00:24:03 UTC  

Literally the overwhelming majority of atheists agree with this because its not a controversial claim

2020-03-10 00:24:11 UTC  

They just say "Ok but people sitll wont do it"

2020-03-10 00:24:25 UTC  

So people can’t be moral without God?