That our will in some respect is uncaused

Assuming free will exists is the most coherent option we have.

That way we can kick the shit out of people who act like assholes instead of being forced to leave them alone because they didn’t “chose” to do it.

Philosophically we still ought to justify/explain it.

By face value it's easiest to assume we have it

In the same way that in our every day life we act as if the earth is flat, but everything is more complicated as we go up in complexity.

Is it acceptable for your definition that the source of the free will is not caused, but is the cause? Because my definition of what a subject is is basically the sum total of causes that ultimately cause action to be taken

If Free Will is say, the cause, then God still is the First Cause because He Himself made the Concept of Free Will

That's what Eoppa said referring to Molinism I think

Molinism?

Molinism is something a bit different

Imma Google that

And I say God at every moment sustains our free will

ughh

I am ragequitting this conversation

Free will and the modal collapse argument are two things I think I can contribute to if I write something longer and more fleshed out. If not free will then hopefully the modal collapse argument.

@Revolt Against Everything there's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya about the raising of the wrist, Socrates himself was permanently pissed...

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Yes

No

Well. Maybe. "It's complicated".

<@&682288520680964151> Daily Topic 🔖

- Where would you draw the line between insanity and creativity?

When are hurt or in close danger of being hurt as the result of the persons creativity/insanity

They are the same thing, one is when society views it positively, the other negatively

@Attika at the profit margin.

when u see what benifits we got from hitler and all nazis sht

u understand that it was worth it

but when u only see that hitler is killing people because u think with your heart and u cant imagine that there is benefits

then u are close minded

otherwise

u would try to understand why

hitler is a good person

and so

learn and upgrade your knowledge

because open mindness = research of the truth/ knowledge

Person above must be kidding.

It is simply unnatural for people to only think with their minds and not with their hearts also. You, at this very moment, do think with your heart, but you are denying its beliefs, even though you shouldn't. The benefits of killing people were very few, and could've been achieved otherwise.

This whole "don't think with your heart, think with your mind" thing is just so wrong and so unnecessary. Yes, you should focus on thinking with your mind, not listening to your heart, but really, every thinking person could realize that killing people, regardless of the feelings such action generates, is wrong.

Violence is only justified when used to overthrow violence, and that's not the use we see in Nazi Germany.

Now of course, calling Hitler a good person is like calling Alexander the Great a Slav. I don't think I need to go in detail on why he was a mentally ill and unstable person, should I?

His very history and past show signs of literal autism (not joking), mental instability and lack of socialization. It's now random how people who don't know how to socialize tend to have more Authoritarian beliefs. And if you read about Hitler's past, you'll see why he held the beliefs that he held.