Message from @Draško
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we have some pre-fourth century pieces of the gospels and they're identical to the gospels we have today
well we have as about as much proof that god exists as we have proof he doesn’t exist. And I think it’s rational to go with something not existing if you don’t have sufficient evidence for it
Thats how it works in the court of laws anyway
the criminal doesn’t have a charge until there is hard evidence of proof .
So what should we believe in?
Humanism
The thing that started the enlightenment period
Being good people without the need for divine intervention
Understanding that we are all humans
We all have feelings
basically christain philsophy without the god part
its amazing
Because people can do good without some figure in the sky telling them so
there's no reason for anyone to buy your worldview if there isn't a God
Religion is probably the reason for 80% of all conflict ex. the crusades, protestant massacars and muslim bombings
not saying that's a good reason to argue God exists
There is
but it just is
there's absolutely none
religon is disease that can do way more harm than good
but I also respect the fact that it will always exist.
meaningless i should say
And that there are good believers
Fuck
why
it will always exist because at a deep level you realize that a moral system cannot exist without religion
unless it's some social contract-tier bullshit
in a meaningless existence there is absolutely no reason why anyone should ascribe to any form of morality no matter how "well" you argue it or how arbitrarily well our society would function under it
they may ascribe to it because of social contract but then they aren't really believing this morality, they're just accepting it for their own practicality
it can though
there can be morals without god
there literally can't
how can you define morals without God?
let's just do a thought experiment. give me something that's in your eyes objectively moral
since from what i can tell, you're arguing that objective morality exists without God
you see, murdering each other will stop our species from reproducing, so those who do it kinda die out in evolution.
oof
bad internet
and why should i give a shit about our species?
Morals, but without god: A general behavior pattern that helps our species not die out, as is the only goal in life every single living creature shares, to keep our species alive. also, we have feelings, if those feelings are hurt, we don't like it. and if most people share the same feelings about something, they call it immoral, and some people with a god-complex call it immmoral even if only they don't like it.