Message from @Draško

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2020-02-04 15:01:16 UTC  

now, from Wikipedia, about the David Inscriptions, translated with 99.9% accuracy by me "The Attention is especially on the mention of a 'House David' . Should this reading be correct, this would be the first Evidence for the mention of a David. If, by this, the biblical David is meant, should remain unanswered for now. [...] The Inscriptions is historical in no case proof for a Unified Kingdom of Israel and Juda under the bilical King David.

2020-02-04 15:05:11 UTC  

on the Nazareth house, all I could find was a christian order of nuns that take in Orphans, and sometimes abuse them.

2020-02-04 15:06:24 UTC  

you have absolutely no evidence that the bible was ever altered

2020-02-04 15:06:52 UTC  

we have some pre-fourth century pieces of the gospels and they're identical to the gospels we have today

2020-02-04 17:39:30 UTC  

well we have as about as much proof that god exists as we have proof he doesn’t exist. And I think it’s rational to go with something not existing if you don’t have sufficient evidence for it

2020-02-04 17:39:39 UTC  

Thats how it works in the court of laws anyway

2020-02-04 17:40:14 UTC  

the criminal doesn’t have a charge until there is hard evidence of proof .

2020-02-04 17:49:05 UTC  

So what should we believe in?

2020-02-04 17:49:37 UTC  

Humanism

2020-02-04 17:49:53 UTC  

The thing that started the enlightenment period

2020-02-04 17:50:20 UTC  

Being good people without the need for divine intervention

2020-02-04 17:50:32 UTC  

Understanding that we are all humans

2020-02-04 17:50:44 UTC  

We all have feelings

2020-02-04 17:51:13 UTC  

basically christain philsophy without the god part

2020-02-04 17:51:27 UTC  

its amazing

2020-02-04 17:51:56 UTC  

Because people can do good without some figure in the sky telling them so

2020-02-04 17:52:41 UTC  

there's no reason for anyone to buy your worldview if there isn't a God

2020-02-04 17:52:45 UTC  

Religion is probably the reason for 80% of all conflict ex. the crusades, protestant massacars and muslim bombings

2020-02-04 17:52:49 UTC  

not saying that's a good reason to argue God exists

2020-02-04 17:52:51 UTC  

There is

2020-02-04 17:52:53 UTC  

but it just is

2020-02-04 17:52:56 UTC  

there's absolutely none

2020-02-04 17:53:10 UTC  

religon is disease that can do way more harm than good

2020-02-04 17:53:24 UTC  

worthless statement

2020-02-04 17:53:29 UTC  

but I also respect the fact that it will always exist.

2020-02-04 17:53:33 UTC  

meaningless i should say

2020-02-04 17:53:47 UTC  

And that there are good believers

2020-02-04 17:53:50 UTC  

Fuck

2020-02-04 17:53:53 UTC  

why

2020-02-04 17:54:16 UTC  

it will always exist because at a deep level you realize that a moral system cannot exist without religion

2020-02-04 17:54:22 UTC  

unless it's some social contract-tier bullshit

2020-02-04 17:55:10 UTC  

in a meaningless existence there is absolutely no reason why anyone should ascribe to any form of morality no matter how "well" you argue it or how arbitrarily well our society would function under it

2020-02-04 17:55:56 UTC  

they may ascribe to it because of social contract but then they aren't really believing this morality, they're just accepting it for their own practicality

2020-02-04 17:56:13 UTC  

it can though

2020-02-04 17:56:20 UTC  

there can be morals without god

2020-02-04 17:56:25 UTC  

there literally can't

2020-02-04 17:56:29 UTC  

how can you define morals without God?

2020-02-04 17:57:04 UTC  

let's just do a thought experiment. give me something that's in your eyes objectively moral

2020-02-04 17:57:19 UTC  

since from what i can tell, you're arguing that objective morality exists without God

2020-02-04 17:58:42 UTC  

you see, murdering each other will stop our species from reproducing, so those who do it kinda die out in evolution.

2020-02-04 17:58:48 UTC  

oof