Thats how it works in the court of laws anyway

the criminal doesn’t have a charge until there is hard evidence of proof .

So what should we believe in?

Humanism

The thing that started the enlightenment period

Being good people without the need for divine intervention

Understanding that we are all humans

We all have feelings

basically christain philsophy without the god part

its amazing

Because people can do good without some figure in the sky telling them so

there's no reason for anyone to buy your worldview if there isn't a God

Religion is probably the reason for 80% of all conflict ex. the crusades, protestant massacars and muslim bombings

not saying that's a good reason to argue God exists

There is

but it just is

there's absolutely none

religon is disease that can do way more harm than good

worthless statement

but I also respect the fact that it will always exist.

meaningless i should say

And that there are good believers

Fuck

why

it will always exist because at a deep level you realize that a moral system cannot exist without religion

unless it's some social contract-tier bullshit

in a meaningless existence there is absolutely no reason why anyone should ascribe to any form of morality no matter how "well" you argue it or how arbitrarily well our society would function under it

they may ascribe to it because of social contract but then they aren't really believing this morality, they're just accepting it for their own practicality

it can though

there can be morals without god

there literally can't

how can you define morals without God?

let's just do a thought experiment. give me something that's in your eyes objectively moral

since from what i can tell, you're arguing that objective morality exists without God

you see, murdering each other will stop our species from reproducing, so those who do it kinda die out in evolution.

oof

bad internet

and why should i give a shit about our species?

Morals, but without god: A general behavior pattern that helps our species not die out, as is the only goal in life every single living creature shares, to keep our species alive. also, we have feelings, if those feelings are hurt, we don't like it. and if most people share the same feelings about something, they call it immoral, and some people with a god-complex call it immmoral even if only they don't like it.

no you're being silly

i don't have to care at all about what other people feel