there are many different types of paganism, i myself im vedic, but i have a perennial outlook on religion in general

So do you have any argumentation for proof?

> on what subject in particular @Eoppa

The validity of paganism

Something that would convince me to become a pagan or such

Are you a Catholic @Eoppa ?

Yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetism_and_other_religions#Christianity

You validated it when you took our ideas lol

@ComradeChaos you've become very boring to speak to, I'm sorry.

Cope harder

I'm boring to speak to because reality doesn't support your biases on what paganism is

I don't mean to be rude, but I have no intention to debate you after our previous ones. I've had plenty of debates over whether Catholicism is pagan. But you make it unenjoyable for me to come to this chat anymore. I'd rather speak to pagans.

Catholics clearly appropriated Qabalah as well as hermetic beliefs

That's not to say they aren't Christian, but that is an act creating syncretism between religions

paganism as whole is a very broad term that refers to native indo european faiths that revolve around the worship of nature. The core aspect of paganism is such, in hinduism its called sanatana dharma, in asatru its yggdrasil, depending on the branch it has a different name, but they all refer to the exact same thing, the unbreakable and eternal laws of the universe which everything has,does, and will abide by. Unlike monotheistic faiths which take on an exoteric outlook on live, paganism as a whole is esoteric. additionally paganism as a whole has had thousands upon thousands of more years of philosophy than any other religion @Eoppa

actually i take that back esoteric isnt the right word

but i cant describe it in another way

But I asked something more specific, I don't care about the utility right now

well then to get to that i musk ask you why cling to christianity? @Eoppa

I justify it by metaphysics, historical apologetics, and miracles

such as?

In terms of miracles?

no

metaphysics

Argument from motion is a good one

elabirate

elaborate*

This is the argument

It's establishes *purus actus*

this sounds like the some hermetic stuff, can you confirm @ComradeChaos

@Eoppa this isnt necessarily an argument for christianity specifically, the 7 hermetic axioms are extremely similar

The full argument is 50 steps, but this necessitates a monotheistic, non deistic, perfect, incorporeal, eternal, intellectual, omnipotent/omniscient entity.

Which excludes polytheistic beliefs

not at all

Such as most pagans

in paganism there is one ultimate being

in vedic faith that is brahman

not sure what its called in others

the other gods are manifestations of different things in nature which do indeed exist in a sense