Message from @Eoppa

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2020-03-17 21:18:07 UTC  

lets say you violated the no toxicity rule

2020-03-17 21:18:32 UTC  

I don't believe I've been disrespectful to you

2020-03-17 21:19:05 UTC  

ok but you did violate a rule

2020-03-17 21:19:30 UTC  

all you are doing is digging yourself into a hole

2020-03-17 21:20:07 UTC  

Ping a mod please

2020-03-17 21:20:25 UTC  

I'm sure they can clear it up

2020-03-17 21:20:52 UTC  

you are breaking a rule

2020-03-17 21:21:59 UTC  

Can you quote the one I'm breaking?

2020-03-17 21:23:42 UTC  

**@moira** has been detained.

2020-03-17 21:23:58 UTC  

@Sentient23 Thank you for pinging.

2020-03-17 21:24:17 UTC  

@Eoppa Next time something like this happens, ping me.

2020-03-17 23:55:45 UTC  

What's a good argument for objective morality?

2020-03-17 23:56:24 UTC  

why are you asking

2020-03-17 23:57:39 UTC  

Some guy said Evil doesn't exist because "muh moral subjectivity"

2020-03-17 23:57:53 UTC  

It was on a different server

2020-03-17 23:58:26 UTC  

well yeah there is no evil if morality is subjective

2020-03-17 23:58:38 UTC  

its a matter of popularity

2020-03-17 23:59:24 UTC  

So theoretically speaking, murder would be considered moral?

2020-03-17 23:59:37 UTC  

it will to you

2020-03-17 23:59:41 UTC  

if you say so

2020-03-17 23:59:59 UTC  

I'm an Aristotelian Catholic. When you refer to a father, we can speak as to a good father based on its form. Goodness comes from being.

2020-03-18 00:00:04 UTC  

its just an unpopular opinion

2020-03-18 00:00:44 UTC  

the fact objective morality exists should be enough proof that god exists

2020-03-18 00:01:40 UTC  

Because God exists as maximally perfect, he as well is maximally good.

2020-03-18 00:02:10 UTC  

he is perfectly moral

2020-03-18 00:02:34 UTC  

Moral is a touchy word, especially around deontologists

2020-03-18 00:02:39 UTC  

morality can be both but most of it is objective

2020-03-18 00:02:56 UTC  

like wasting water isn't that immoral when you live in an area where there is a lot of it but it's immoral in the desert

2020-03-18 00:03:05 UTC  

on the other hand things like murder is always immoral

2020-03-18 00:03:31 UTC  

even some of the stuff that doesn't make direct sense like sodomy or keeping families together is subject to objective morality.

2020-03-18 00:03:58 UTC  

@Eoppa hmm why?

2020-03-18 00:04:56 UTC  

They make a distinction between ethics, which is what everyone else calls morals anyways. And morals which is the application of ethics to them.

2020-03-18 00:05:13 UTC  

Ancaps usually use this distinction with the NAP

2020-03-18 00:05:43 UTC  

i dont understand how can someone disagree with god

2020-03-18 00:05:52 UTC  

he is the creator

2020-03-18 00:06:14 UTC  

the whole universe is made by him

2020-03-18 00:06:35 UTC  

And is continually sustained by him.

2020-03-18 00:07:53 UTC  

besides that rules that are made by yourself are arbitrary

2020-03-18 00:08:13 UTC  

why shouldnt it be anything else

2020-03-18 00:12:51 UTC  

@Florida Man anyway perhaps I do but I must dine at a suppertime feast first

2020-03-18 00:14:43 UTC  

Alright then