Message from @Ater Votum
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So theoretically speaking, murder would be considered moral?
it will to you
if you say so
I'm an Aristotelian Catholic. When you refer to a father, we can speak as to a good father based on its form. Goodness comes from being.
its just an unpopular opinion
the fact objective morality exists should be enough proof that god exists
Because God exists as maximally perfect, he as well is maximally good.
he is perfectly moral
Moral is a touchy word, especially around deontologists
morality can be both but most of it is objective
like wasting water isn't that immoral when you live in an area where there is a lot of it but it's immoral in the desert
on the other hand things like murder is always immoral
even some of the stuff that doesn't make direct sense like sodomy or keeping families together is subject to objective morality.
@Eoppa hmm why?
They make a distinction between ethics, which is what everyone else calls morals anyways. And morals which is the application of ethics to them.
Ancaps usually use this distinction with the NAP
i dont understand how can someone disagree with god
he is the creator
the whole universe is made by him
And is continually sustained by him.
why shouldnt it be anything else
@Florida Man anyway perhaps I do but I must dine at a suppertime feast first
Alright then
<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖
-Do you think that the Christians actually started the fire during Nero's reign in the Roman Empire? Why would they do so, and did Nero do well that he blamed them?
no
I think the filthy disgusting city started the fire
Probably not
It's very unlikely, and well, considering Christians were Nero's enemies, he did well. He did what he had to do, destroy his enemies.
Not really
Hmm. No, I do not think Christians did it. I don't see a motive. They were already outcasts as is, easy targets, hence why Nero blamed them so easily.
I agree, Christians had no motive for starting the fire
That and Nero was a bit paranoid
They had a motive, and a very good one, but they just didn't.
the houses were build pretty closely together.
it got started by accident but spread really fast.
wasnt nero the only emperor to convert to judaism?
yeah he was lmao http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11445-nero
I normally dislike Catholics but I'll make an exception because this one is very polite
I have 5 questions for Eoppa
Question 1. Christ stated that the church cannot fail, and that the church is that body which is comprised by the offices passed down by the apostles. But it is also true that the church is that body which possesses the true interpretation of scripture. According to Catholic doctrine, is it a) impossible for the current church to misinterpret scripture or b) possible for the church to misinterpret scripture upon which point the offices will be taken up by people who have not been anointed by a predecessor but possess the true interpretation?
Question 2. It is Catholic doctrine that a person possessing an office of the church cannot spread false doctrine while acting in his office. When do we know whether or not he is acting in his office? Is it when he is influenced by God? How do we know when that is? Is it just when he is speaking the truth? How do we know what the truth is if not verified by the grace of his office?