Message from @Royal Chaotic
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@Krusader civil unions between homosexuals shouldn't be allowed because it encourages the sinful activity.
I'm a Catholic @Royal Chaotic
Where does it say that sex is unitive and procreative? @Eoppa i mean
Also does that mean that any sex that doesnt result in babys is sinful?
I think from a purely pragmatic standpoint, making something illegal doesn't really prevent it from happening
@Royal Chaotic ```Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes```
And no, but you can't purposefully prevent the child
Iโve come full circle.
naw shit
Is that from the bible @Eoppa ? And why not
@Krusader but you shouldn't take part in someone's stumbling and codify it into law.
@Royal Chaotic that's from the catechism
Sure you can. These people don't have a choice and we shouldn't punish them for something they do not have any control over
What catechism? And why is no child sex not sinful?
It unprocreative after all, also does that mean that if you are infertile you cant have sex @Eoppa
You shouldn't marry if you are infertile
And sex while *purposefully* preventing that end is sinful
Like contraception
Or especially abortion
@Krusader we have a choice to not adulter. They have a choice to not be a sodomite.
They have a choice to not do things but they don't have the choice to nor want to do such
Lol yo
Marriage isn't specific to Christianity
The purposeful prevention is the sin. It is still ordered to procreation.
Nor should it be state controlled
Therefore uh, gays should be able to marry
And have it be recognized as such
@โงโฝ ๐น ๐ ๐ ๐ถ ๐ ๐พ ๐ ๐ โพโง no other religion nor state has the sacrament of marriage.
Nobody gives a fuck about things that aren't Christianity
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Does marriage exist between athiests
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No
No
@โงโฝ ๐น ๐ ๐ ๐ถ ๐ ๐พ ๐ ๐ โพโง no that's fake marriage
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Lol ok then
@Spider Sutra unironically yes
you're using different definitions of the word