Message from @Doktor Goon

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2020-01-11 03:46:49 UTC  

i disagree

2020-01-11 03:47:05 UTC  

About what

2020-01-11 03:50:00 UTC  

what you wrote..

2020-01-11 03:51:47 UTC  

Why

2020-01-11 03:52:09 UTC  

I say nothing and lower my gaze like a humble muslim

2020-01-11 04:00:05 UTC  

@Doktor Goon i believe so?

2020-01-11 04:02:28 UTC  

Like just on principle or what

2020-01-11 04:03:11 UTC  

Is hentai art?

2020-01-11 05:11:43 UTC  

But what's the difference between hentai and non-erotic nudity in form?

2020-01-11 05:12:03 UTC  

It's all up to you taste - to your perception as the observer

2020-01-11 05:12:09 UTC  

So in the end, art is just entirely self-defined

2020-01-11 06:20:55 UTC  

Hentai is explicitly pornography

2020-01-11 06:43:08 UTC  

Mexico still uses the Roman Salute

2020-01-11 06:53:47 UTC  

So are any 18th century nude paintings

2020-01-11 10:43:13 UTC  

@Light There is a long standing artistic tradition in western civilization of the nude form including that of the young. The difference between beauty, innocence, and virginity (promise of future fertility) and sexuality (opportunity in the present for consumption) is not a difficult one to judge by triangulation with traditional works of art. If there is a question there is no question.

2020-01-11 13:58:13 UTC  

It's a long standing degenerate tradition

2020-01-11 13:58:18 UTC  

Not all tradition is good.

2020-01-11 14:56:46 UTC  

its not degenerate

2020-01-11 14:57:07 UTC  

nudity in traditionalist sense did not promote and embrace the same things current day "nudity" embraces and expresses

2020-01-11 15:52:09 UTC  

Disgusting = degenerate

2020-01-11 16:00:02 UTC  

To say nudity is inherently pornographic is dumb. Looking at something like the Birth of Venus and saying that's pornographic because she's naked is absurd.

2020-01-11 16:03:44 UTC  

Pornography has intent behind it

2020-01-11 16:04:12 UTC  

Plenty of imagery intended for sexual stimulation isn't even overtly sexual

2020-01-11 16:05:45 UTC  

sex

2020-01-11 16:05:57 UTC  

Sexuality is a part of the human condition and it can be represented in art

2020-01-11 16:07:26 UTC  

Degeneracy = Having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable, thus showing evidence of decline on these sectors. What's desirable or even normal, is not always good, and thus degeneracy can often not be disgusting. @Ater Votum

2020-01-11 16:08:41 UTC  

Staying to the qualities that were once considered normal and desirable would be extremely stupid.

2020-01-11 16:08:48 UTC  

Degeneracy as a term itself is stupid.

2020-01-11 16:14:46 UTC  

"Art is entirely subjective but because of my thick skull I'll justify my rational that nudity in art is disgusting because it has pornographic intent not because I'm insecure about my sexuality."

2020-01-11 16:16:05 UTC  

ah yes assuming intent and backstory

2020-01-11 16:16:06 UTC  

classic

2020-01-11 16:16:10 UTC  

so cliche and original

2020-01-11 16:16:32 UTC  

"oh you're against x???? haha that means ur insecure about y GOT YA AHHAHAHHAHAHHA"

2020-01-11 16:23:12 UTC  

??

2020-01-11 16:23:37 UTC  

What happened

2020-01-11 19:02:36 UTC  

@Koninos i don't get your premise

2020-01-11 19:48:37 UTC  

Even if the creator doesn't intend for something to be sexually stimulating, one may still find it stimulating

2020-01-11 19:52:50 UTC  

Likewise, overt sexuality - hell, perhaps even some stimulation - might be intentionally in proper art, to invoke certain feelings

2020-01-11 20:06:26 UTC  

Anyone can crank it to anything

2020-01-11 20:06:39 UTC  

That doesn't make nudity in art pornographic

2020-01-11 21:23:25 UTC  

@Deleted User What is your view on civilian owned fire arms?