Message from @Sentient23
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The point of hentai is to crank one out to anime tiddies you aren't sitting there going "gee willikers this artist really wanted me to examine the beauty of the female form"
disagreed.
Okay so what would you say instead?
i disagree
About what
what you wrote..
Why
I say nothing and lower my gaze like a humble muslim
@Doktor Goon i believe so?
Like just on principle or what
Is hentai art?
But what's the difference between hentai and non-erotic nudity in form?
It's all up to you taste - to your perception as the observer
So in the end, art is just entirely self-defined
Hentai is explicitly pornography
Mexico still uses the Roman Salute
So are any 18th century nude paintings
@Light There is a long standing artistic tradition in western civilization of the nude form including that of the young. The difference between beauty, innocence, and virginity (promise of future fertility) and sexuality (opportunity in the present for consumption) is not a difficult one to judge by triangulation with traditional works of art. If there is a question there is no question.
It's a long standing degenerate tradition
Not all tradition is good.
nudity in traditionalist sense did not promote and embrace the same things current day "nudity" embraces and expresses
Disgusting = degenerate
To say nudity is inherently pornographic is dumb. Looking at something like the Birth of Venus and saying that's pornographic because she's naked is absurd.
Pornography has intent behind it
Plenty of imagery intended for sexual stimulation isn't even overtly sexual
sex
Sexuality is a part of the human condition and it can be represented in art
Degeneracy = Having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable, thus showing evidence of decline on these sectors. What's desirable or even normal, is not always good, and thus degeneracy can often not be disgusting. @Ater Votum
Staying to the qualities that were once considered normal and desirable would be extremely stupid.
Degeneracy as a term itself is stupid.
"Art is entirely subjective but because of my thick skull I'll justify my rational that nudity in art is disgusting because it has pornographic intent not because I'm insecure about my sexuality."
ah yes assuming intent and backstory
classic
so cliche and original
"oh you're against x???? haha that means ur insecure about y GOT YA AHHAHAHHAHAHHA"
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What happened
@Koninos i don't get your premise
Even if the creator doesn't intend for something to be sexually stimulating, one may still find it stimulating
Likewise, overt sexuality - hell, perhaps even some stimulation - might be intentionally in proper art, to invoke certain feelings