Message from @Draško

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2020-02-03 18:51:31 UTC  

kind of a stretch to say i do it "whenever" i refer to them

2020-02-03 18:52:03 UTC  

because that was the stage at which the "skeptic" online community was at when i was into it, and i'm guessing it's still like that now

2020-02-03 18:52:55 UTC  

well when you refer to atheists, you had reffered to a stereotyped version of them.

2020-02-03 18:53:16 UTC  

what about anthony flew, who has argued against christians for 50 years and at age 81 declared that God exists?

2020-02-03 18:53:26 UTC  

did he not think hard enough?

2020-02-03 18:54:19 UTC  

did he ever think about what he argued for?

2020-02-03 18:54:47 UTC  

well if he spent half a century debating it i'm sure he did

2020-02-03 18:55:08 UTC  

you're free to read up on him before making assumptions

2020-02-03 18:56:14 UTC  

if you're the sort of guy that's not in the "stereotypical youtube skeptic" atheist community i'm astounded that you don't know who anthony flew is

2020-02-03 18:56:45 UTC  

clearly not. Or, maybe he thought about it like he was told to. Like it was proven, as truth, that there should be no debate about it. Like you were.

2020-02-03 18:57:27 UTC  

this sort of arrogance is to be expected from someone who rejects God

2020-02-03 18:57:31 UTC  

alright, i'll give it to you

2020-02-03 18:57:49 UTC  

you're right and you thought harder than flew, who thought about it for 50 years and was one of the most promiment atheists of his era

2020-02-03 18:58:28 UTC  

the sheer of lack of self awareness oyu have is said. 'Ill be right back,

2020-02-03 18:59:01 UTC  

@Draško what religion are you?

2020-02-03 19:12:24 UTC  

@moira read this

2020-02-03 19:12:42 UTC  

it combats the argument 'but who created god?'

2020-02-03 19:13:51 UTC  

Ill read that

2020-02-03 19:14:21 UTC  

it's a stupid argument

2020-02-03 19:14:44 UTC  

God isn't limited by the onthological argument in the way the material universe is

2020-02-03 19:14:46 UTC  

why would He be

2020-02-03 19:15:01 UTC  

the entire point of the argument is that an external being was the first cause

2020-02-03 19:15:09 UTC  

i don't know how this flies over people's heads

2020-02-03 19:17:55 UTC  

quick question: why does God not do any miracles anymore, or anyone else for that matter? why'd miracles die out as we got more informed, better in the ways of science and document things more?

2020-02-03 19:18:09 UTC  

God does miracles all the time

2020-02-03 19:18:29 UTC  

Christians don't deny the miracle-doing of God

2020-02-03 19:18:46 UTC  

at least the members of the Church

2020-02-03 19:20:17 UTC  

swss

2020-02-03 19:21:30 UTC  

what does that mean?

2020-02-03 19:22:20 UTC  

ok, so explain why back in Jesus Days, mircales were turningk,what was it, 5 bread and 2 fish into enough food to feed essentially a small army, but nowadays it's just passing a test you likely studied for anyways.

2020-02-03 19:24:36 UTC  

Jesus was the literal manifestation of the Son on Earth, and He came here to establish the new testament. Of course He is going to perform amazing miracles. Miracles of this kind still happen from time to time, like Medjugorje, but they're definitely more rare.

2020-02-03 19:25:44 UTC  

so why has god not sent down someone else to cleanse us, once again, of our sins, if he could do it back then

2020-02-03 19:26:14 UTC  

is that of me to ask? ask Him

2020-02-03 19:26:20 UTC  

John 20:29

2020-02-03 19:26:21 UTC  

2020-02-03 19:27:15 UTC  

well if Jesus has cleansed ALL our sins, why do you still put so much effort into converting people? God loves *all* of us, regardless of our faith, so why do I have to 'accept him as my savior and ask forgiveness' ? Shouldn't I be cleansed of my sins nonetheless?

2020-02-03 19:27:19 UTC  

a hardened heart runs in the face of truth. have you read the Gospel?

2020-02-03 19:27:40 UTC  

you're now arguing something that i don't think you have an understanding of

2020-02-03 19:28:04 UTC  

i could explain it to you but i think @Eoppa would do a better job so i'll kindly ask him to

2020-02-03 19:28:32 UTC  

well he can