but please, do explain why everything *but* god needs to have a creator

yes there is

the movement is literally called neo atheism or new atheism

and the explanation is rather simple if you give it a minute or two and i don't even know how it doesn't hit your head

God is a being that exists outside the bounds of matter

there is not. You, as a *not*- atheist would not know.

lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

what a silly argument from authority

i have to be an atheist to know about atheism?

trust me i was one in my edgy atheist phase like 4 years ago

loved watching neckbeard youtubers every day thinking i was smart

you can't know something about something if oyu've never participated.

of course you can, that's a completely ridiculous assertion

do i have to eat shit to know it tastes bad?

you clearly never have. whenver you refer to atheists, you refer to a stereotype of them instead of actual atheists

you've only heard me refer to atheists once in your entire life

kind of a stretch to say i do it "whenever" i refer to them

because that was the stage at which the "skeptic" online community was at when i was into it, and i'm guessing it's still like that now

well when you refer to atheists, you had reffered to a stereotyped version of them.

what about anthony flew, who has argued against christians for 50 years and at age 81 declared that God exists?

did he not think hard enough?

did he ever think about what he argued for?

well if he spent half a century debating it i'm sure he did

you're free to read up on him before making assumptions

if you're the sort of guy that's not in the "stereotypical youtube skeptic" atheist community i'm astounded that you don't know who anthony flew is

clearly not. Or, maybe he thought about it like he was told to. Like it was proven, as truth, that there should be no debate about it. Like you were.

this sort of arrogance is to be expected from someone who rejects God

alright, i'll give it to you

you're right and you thought harder than flew, who thought about it for 50 years and was one of the most promiment atheists of his era

the sheer of lack of self awareness oyu have is said. 'Ill be right back,

@Draško what religion are you?

https://www.wordonfire.org/resources/blog/but-who-created-god/19078/

@moira read this

it combats the argument 'but who created god?'

Ill read that

it's a stupid argument

God isn't limited by the onthological argument in the way the material universe is

why would He be

the entire point of the argument is that an external being was the first cause

i don't know how this flies over people's heads