Christians don't deny the miracle-doing of God

at least the members of the Church

swss

what does that mean?

ok, so explain why back in Jesus Days, mircales were turningk,what was it, 5 bread and 2 fish into enough food to feed essentially a small army, but nowadays it's just passing a test you likely studied for anyways.

Jesus was the literal manifestation of the Son on Earth, and He came here to establish the new testament. Of course He is going to perform amazing miracles. Miracles of this kind still happen from time to time, like Medjugorje, but they're definitely more rare.

so why has god not sent down someone else to cleanse us, once again, of our sins, if he could do it back then

is that of me to ask? ask Him

John 20:29

well if Jesus has cleansed ALL our sins, why do you still put so much effort into converting people? God loves *all* of us, regardless of our faith, so why do I have to 'accept him as my savior and ask forgiveness' ? Shouldn't I be cleansed of my sins nonetheless?

a hardened heart runs in the face of truth. have you read the Gospel?

you're now arguing something that i don't think you have an understanding of

i could explain it to you but i think @Eoppa would do a better job so i'll kindly ask him to

well he can

@Eoppa can u explain it to me.

since you understand better

What am I explaining?

Miracles?

@Eoppa miracles and not accepting christ as your savior

We have miracles now as well

not that

why we still need to repent and do good works to be saved

if jesus died for our sins

accepting Jesus as your savior and ask forgiveness i think

God offers us salvation out of his love, we need to mutually accept it

huh

You can seperate yourself from God, God shall never cast you out

It is your decision

well, if I seperate myself from him, why doesn't he try to get me back? After all ,he loves all of us, why owuldn't he want me to believe in him and repent? And, if he loves us all, why doesn't he wipe away our sins without us believing in him?

when you repent you wipe all of your sins up until the point of repention

but why not just by existing? after all, God loves us all.

here's an analogy

actually, scrap the analogy

because sinning isn't just a label that get puts on you and can be removed just like that. sins are objective acts that we can and do perform. jesus' sacrifice doesn't make these actions not bad, it just means that we can be forgiven for them

but why aren't we automaticyl forgiven, if god loves all of us?

because you're rejecting God's proposal to forgive you

you're using your own free will which He has given to you to stray away from HIm

so why has he not made any attempt to get me back to him, if he loves me?

he makes attempts all the time

even this is an attempt