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Mind you, few instances adds up to "millions of people"
Since we're discussing in terms of hundreds of millions to billions of people
Anecdotal evidence to support your argument doesn’t particularly help when there is evidenced, underlying preferences utilized by both sexes that ultimately contributed to our preconceived notions of what a man prefers versus that of a woman.
If you’re attempting to quote or derive from the philosophy of Virginia Prince, who utilized virtually no scientific citations, nor was even engaged in the sciences, in her novels on attempting to challenge those established notions, then, as stated before, ultimately perpetuating the same absurdity as that of a creationist.
I'm sorry, what?
That didn't address anything I discussed
We see concepts of "gender" throughout history, across societies...
It varies a tidbit, mind you
I'm not arguing that the idea of "gender" isn't in part from certain characteristics of the corresponding sex, if that's what you presume I'm saying (albeit, even when there is a correspondence, it's often exaggerated to an unrealistic degree)
But my evidence isn't at all anecdotal
My clarity’s slipping out and it’s turning late; potentially I misread or whatnot.
Fair enough
Are you familiar with the Reimer incident.
I am - and I'd argue it proves my point
wow
that website is not reputable
at all
I’ll clear that up.
And get a new variant.
Ahhhh, here is the ASU page: https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case
Reading the wiki story, it seems like a bit of a stretch to actually draw tons of conclusions based upon gender identity from this...
There are likely other citations which derive, but this in particular was a landmark case.
Unfortunately, Reimer blew his head off.
So we cannot get a direct account from him anymore.
True
But...
There's various... compounding factors
He apparently had a slurry of financial issues, a failing marriage, and some other property issue in his last days.
Namely sexual abuse, divorce, financial issues, and...
well, the list goes on
Suicide of his brother, too...
It's not simply "gender"
Also, case studies 'n' all
The twin brother also had schizophrenia, so...
We can discuss this in the morning.
I need to head to bed, I got something important to attend around 10.
Alright - ttyl
California is trash
It should sink into the Atlantic tbh
So like