Message from @Light

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2019-12-31 05:39:00 UTC  

We've got other terms to do that

2019-12-31 05:39:07 UTC  

Arising from latin, of course

2019-12-31 05:39:11 UTC  

trans-*, and cis-*

2019-12-31 05:39:32 UTC  

like 99% of people (or thereabouts, I don't know the number), are cis

2019-12-31 05:39:39 UTC  

But, there's those few instances

2019-12-31 05:39:56 UTC  

Mind you, few instances adds up to "millions of people"

2019-12-31 05:40:10 UTC  

Since we're discussing in terms of hundreds of millions to billions of people

2019-12-31 05:41:01 UTC  

Anecdotal evidence to support your argument doesn’t particularly help when there is evidenced, underlying preferences utilized by both sexes that ultimately contributed to our preconceived notions of what a man prefers versus that of a woman.

If you’re attempting to quote or derive from the philosophy of Virginia Prince, who utilized virtually no scientific citations, nor was even engaged in the sciences, in her novels on attempting to challenge those established notions, then, as stated before, ultimately perpetuating the same absurdity as that of a creationist.

2019-12-31 05:41:16 UTC  

I'm sorry, what?

2019-12-31 05:41:42 UTC  

That didn't address anything I discussed

2019-12-31 05:41:57 UTC  

We see concepts of "gender" throughout history, across societies...

2019-12-31 05:42:02 UTC  

It varies a tidbit, mind you

2019-12-31 05:42:32 UTC  

I'm not arguing that the idea of "gender" isn't in part from certain characteristics of the corresponding sex, if that's what you presume I'm saying (albeit, even when there is a correspondence, it's often exaggerated to an unrealistic degree)

2019-12-31 05:42:40 UTC  

But my evidence isn't at all anecdotal

2019-12-31 05:44:55 UTC  

My clarity’s slipping out and it’s turning late; potentially I misread or whatnot.

2019-12-31 05:46:00 UTC  

Fair enough

2019-12-31 05:49:00 UTC  

Are you familiar with the Reimer incident.

2019-12-31 05:49:09 UTC  

I am - and I'd argue it proves my point

2019-12-31 05:49:24 UTC  

wow

2019-12-31 05:49:28 UTC  

that website is not reputable

2019-12-31 05:49:28 UTC  

at all

2019-12-31 05:50:00 UTC  

I’ll clear that up.

2019-12-31 05:50:04 UTC  

And get a new variant.

2019-12-31 05:52:09 UTC  

I did not see the sidelines of that one, kek.

2019-12-31 05:52:57 UTC  

Reading the wiki story, it seems like a bit of a stretch to actually draw tons of conclusions based upon gender identity from this...

2019-12-31 05:53:22 UTC  

There are likely other citations which derive, but this in particular was a landmark case.

2019-12-31 05:53:39 UTC  

Unfortunately, Reimer blew his head off.

2019-12-31 05:53:47 UTC  

So we cannot get a direct account from him anymore.

2019-12-31 05:54:35 UTC  

True

2019-12-31 05:54:36 UTC  

But...

2019-12-31 05:54:42 UTC  

There's various... compounding factors

2019-12-31 05:54:49 UTC  

He apparently had a slurry of financial issues, a failing marriage, and some other property issue in his last days.

2019-12-31 05:55:10 UTC  

Namely sexual abuse, divorce, financial issues, and...

2019-12-31 05:55:12 UTC  

well, the list goes on

2019-12-31 05:55:22 UTC  

Suicide of his brother, too...

2019-12-31 05:55:29 UTC  

It's not simply "gender"

2019-12-31 05:55:46 UTC  

Also, case studies 'n' all

2019-12-31 05:56:36 UTC  

The twin brother also had schizophrenia, so...

2019-12-31 05:59:08 UTC  

We can discuss this in the morning.