Like Mussolini also considered Georges Sorel to have heavily influenced his ideology

What form of fascism would you consider yourself to follow? revolutionaryism, organicism, idealism, spiritualism are all things that are inherent in any fascist movement

revolutionaryism is not present within a lot of variants of fascism

I'm a clerical fascist

could you explain which variants and give examples? Codreanu, one of the most notable clerical fascists, certainly considered his movement to be revolutionary. Without essential fascist doctrines such as a organicism, idealism, rejection of materialism etc and yes, revolutionaryism which are all inherent to Gentile, the founder of fascism, a movement stops being fascist and just becomes reactionary/monarchist/authoritarian etc

you have an extremely liberal view of fascism if you dont consider these things inherent parts of it

Could ya please stop confusing different varients of fascism and then claiming those aspects of those particular variants are in every single fascist ideology

Organicism is exclussive to paganism and perhaps pantheism

its not present within clerical fascism

holy shit

clerical fascism rejects revolutionarism

@Zoltanous @Deleted User this is what fascism has become in the 21st century

shut the fuck up

stop acting as if u have some arbitrary authority

ur challenged

@Sentient23 fascism, whether you like it or not, is an **ontological position**. Organicism is an inherent part of this ontological position

define fascism @Sentient23

Again, organicism is not present within clerical fascism you illiterate fuck

define fascism

please

No

any fascist movement that doesnt have organicism as part of its ontology is not fascist

"no"

so you dont know what it is

cool

Yeah definitely, not wanting to do x is definitely the same as not knowing how to do x

Whatever definition i provide, you're still going to disagree with it, so there's no point

well, it sounds like you have an extremely liberal view of what fascism is and just consider it "totalitarian ultra nationalism" or something

of course, this is an educated assumption

so if you actually do know what you are talking about, please provide your definition

Lmao what the fuck is an "educated assumption"

Assumptions are arbitrary by definition

there are assumptions and there are estimates

if ur estimating provide the standards from which ur extrapolating from

nice moving the conversation when you realise you tried to argue something you have no clue about. if you truly think my position is wrong then please provide your definition of fascism and explain how organicism isnt inherent in the ontology

Its not moving the conversation, u just started making retarded unsubstantiated assumptions

and i called you out on it

I see this conversation is going nowhere as debating definitions is fucking useless and boring

if my assumption was wrong then prove it lmao

my advice is for next time you find yourself backed into a corner like this, dont try to argue things you have no clue about/havent read any theory on in the first place

that's not how burden of proof works buddy