Message from @Eno

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2020-02-12 08:47:19 UTC  

your roles are extremely cringe

2020-02-12 08:49:31 UTC  

yeah cause lIbErAl is very not cringe yes yes

2020-02-12 08:49:44 UTC  

oh dont get me wrong

2020-02-12 08:49:47 UTC  

he's cringe as well

2020-02-12 08:49:51 UTC  

but like

2020-02-12 08:50:46 UTC  

IDing as both a fascist and reactionary is very cringe. fascism is inherently a revolutionary ideology

2020-02-12 08:52:52 UTC  

No?

2020-02-12 08:52:57 UTC  

How is fascism revolutionary

2020-02-12 08:53:02 UTC  

Fascism is reactionary

2020-02-12 08:53:07 UTC  

you're speaking of national socialism

2020-02-12 08:54:32 UTC  

you realise that one of the precursors to Italian fascism was the Italian futurists right?

2020-02-12 08:55:45 UTC  

Mussolini was very much against feudalism

2020-02-12 08:56:09 UTC  

and referred to fascism as revolutionary on multiple occasions

2020-02-12 08:56:37 UTC  

Gentile had similar views to the futurists regarding reactionaryism in fascist circles

2020-02-12 08:57:26 UTC  

key word being **italian** fascism

2020-02-12 08:58:11 UTC  

Like Mussolini also considered Georges Sorel to have heavily influenced his ideology

2020-02-12 08:59:00 UTC  

What form of fascism would you consider yourself to follow? revolutionaryism, organicism, idealism, spiritualism are all things that are inherent in any fascist movement

2020-02-12 09:00:16 UTC  

revolutionaryism is not present within a lot of variants of fascism

2020-02-12 09:00:18 UTC  

I'm a clerical fascist

2020-02-12 09:06:24 UTC  

could you explain which variants and give examples? Codreanu, one of the most notable clerical fascists, certainly considered his movement to be revolutionary. Without essential fascist doctrines such as a organicism, idealism, rejection of materialism etc and yes, revolutionaryism which are all inherent to Gentile, the founder of fascism, a movement stops being fascist and just becomes reactionary/monarchist/authoritarian etc

2020-02-12 09:06:49 UTC  

you have an extremely liberal view of fascism if you dont consider these things inherent parts of it

2020-02-12 09:09:10 UTC  

Could ya please stop confusing different varients of fascism and then claiming those aspects of those particular variants are in every single fascist ideology

2020-02-12 09:09:26 UTC  

Organicism is exclussive to paganism and perhaps pantheism

2020-02-12 09:09:32 UTC  

its not present within clerical fascism

2020-02-12 09:09:36 UTC  

holy shit

2020-02-12 09:09:36 UTC  

clerical fascism rejects revolutionarism

2020-02-12 09:10:00 UTC  

@Zoltanous @Deleted User this is what fascism has become in the 21st century

2020-02-12 09:10:26 UTC  

shut the fuck up

2020-02-12 09:10:32 UTC  

stop acting as if u have some arbitrary authority

2020-02-12 09:10:36 UTC  

ur challenged

2020-02-12 09:10:46 UTC  

@Sentient23 fascism, whether you like it or not, is an **ontological position**. Organicism is an inherent part of this ontological position

2020-02-12 09:11:02 UTC  

define fascism @Sentient23

2020-02-12 09:11:46 UTC  

Again, organicism is not present within clerical fascism you illiterate fuck

2020-02-12 09:11:50 UTC  

define fascism

2020-02-12 09:11:52 UTC  

please

2020-02-12 09:12:03 UTC  

No

2020-02-12 09:12:14 UTC  

any fascist movement that doesnt have organicism as part of its ontology is not fascist

2020-02-12 09:12:19 UTC  

"no"

2020-02-12 09:12:23 UTC  

so you dont know what it is

2020-02-12 09:12:24 UTC  

cool

2020-02-12 09:12:40 UTC  

Yeah definitely, not wanting to do x is definitely the same as not knowing how to do x